Don't buy your son a pistol...

Moonpie said:

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Had the old gun in my hand as I turned to show it to my Dad who was standing by the doorway to the bedroom.
Just as I said "Hey Dad, look at....." some unknown woman rushed in and snatched it out of my hand saying, "Aunt Suzie said I could have that!"
This instantly chapped my ass. I grabbed her by the collar and slammed her against the wall while forcefully twisting the gun out of her hand saying, "No. No she didn't."
Aunt Suzie probably didn't even know that old gun was there.
Anyways, gun snatcher started running her mouth about her husband was gonna kick my ass, yada, yada, yada. Told her to go get the guy. I'll wait right here.
She ran off and never saw her again. . . .

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Oh, to have been a fly on the wall for that scene! I would have loved to see that.

Stayed with my Mom for a bit when she was ill. stayed in her house for 6 months doing her estate later. My Mom really did hide stuff all over the house. My sister came over alot. I'd see her doing funny things like squeezing the curtain hems. I ask her if she would share what she found and she said hell no. After everything was sold and everybody was paid off, my wife came for a stay. She noticed a ceramic covered dish on the bedside table, whats this, she asked? I said its got some costume jewelry in it, my sisters have searched it 20 times each, you want it? Yes she said its got your Moms name on it. Sometime later a ring from the jar appraised at over 12k. My Mom could hide stuff. Sometimes I smile at the probable thousands I gave away to friends and neighbors. I know it would have made Mom happy. I can tell this now as nobody is left to get butt hurt.

baboon said:

Hell I learned a lot about people dropping a SureFire flashlight in a crowd of coworkers.

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baboon,

I once was hired to "babysit" a house, so the same thing that happened to my uncle's place didn't happen to the deceased's family. = After the funeral, two of the sisters got into a hair-pulling, slapping, knock-down, drag-out, cat-fight over a plain 2-D cell flashlight & some used/cheap pots & pans. = Probably worth less than ten bucks!!
(Everything else was essentially listed in the lady's will.)

It took the women's 2 husbands to separate the women before somebody got seriously injured/killed.

People are WEIRD.

yours, satx

satx78247 said:

baboon,

I once was hired to "babysit" a house, so the same thing that happened to my uncle's place didn't happen to the deceased's family. = After the funeral, two of the sisters got into a hair-pulling, slapping, knock-down, drag-out, cat-fight over a plain 2-D cell flashlight & some used/cheap pots & pans. = Probably worth less than ten bucks!!
(Everything else was essentially listed in the lady's will.)

It took the women's 2 husbands to separate the women before somebody got seriously injured/killed.

People are WEIRD.

yours, satx

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Hell I thought my siblings & I were above acting the fools over my dad estate. Had a niece who wanted his new car, I say fine. Then really all the other grandchildren should should get equal value, which included me coming out of pocket from my 1/3. The few things in his house I wanted gas his lunch bucket & a couple of pipe wrenches. My sisters says she will ship them to me. Never got them.

The rest of the household furnishing get sucked up by my sister 3 kids. I really didn't want anything as I was established in my house & I had no plans on trucking anything to Texas.

The neighborhood had changed for the worse so I suggest my sisters son & 3rd wife who is pregnant move in to the house. That way it does not get broke into & all the copper piping & wire stripped out. My nephew was living in my sisters leaky basement too at the time.

My brother & I say $500.00 a month that would cover our expense & a tiny nest egg if repairs are needed. My sister talks us down to $350.00. The nephews storage bill was that &now he had a 3 bedroom house with a 2 car garage. My dad put my sister uncharge of the state because I live in Texas & my brother worked minimum 80 hours weeks. Little did she know that my brothers daughter set up the bank account where the rent was deposited. Rent checks were always late, & few missed. Then under Obama the boy decides to buy a house(loans for loosers). The kid left a bunch of stuff in the house for 2 mounts as he transitioned into his house. He also never took everything leaving a mess to be cleaned up at our expense.

I called my sister on it told her I thought we were better then that, but she proved she was as white trash as the guy she married & left her with 3 kids. Told her I was also aware of the fact that mom & dad subsidized her & her kids as the grew up. I have yet to speak to her. When one of her grandkids asked when I would be back as they missed me. I told the kid I'd would never come back even for her grandmothers & uncles funerals!

baboon,

SORRY to hear that.

Fwiw, my mother died (at 99YO) in SEP 2016 & my kid sister has still not filed her will. (Executors in TX have 3 years to even FILE the will & as much time as "is reasonable" to divide the assets of an estate.)
I suspect that she has "disbursed"/disposed of most of the things that were willed to the 2 of us "in equal shares" (including Mother's antique furniture, jewelry, china sets, sets of crystal, "better" books & other things "of substantial value") & she will say that they were lost/stolen/broken/"thrown out as worthless"/etc..
(I hope that I'm 100% wrong but fear that I'm correct. = "Greedy" is her middle name.)

yours, satx

Hearing these stories makes me feel blessed. My brother handled the estates of our parents and grandparents. (He is in the town in another state where they all lived.)

The only thing I've every worried about with him was that he would cheat HIMSELF. He's the kind that would starve before he would cheat anyone out of a dime.

A buddy of mine was hoping to get his father desk when the house was being divvied up. His sister laid claim to it. He was a bit hurt, but manned up about it. His sister went to move it & it was extremely heavy so she told him he could have it because she didn't want to move anything that heavy.

He goes over & tries picking up on one corner & is surprised at the weight. Looking closer he noticed how the deep it has sunk in the cart & pad. After pulling the drawers out he realized it had false bottoms & his dad stashed a shit load of silver coins under the bottom drawers & that's were the weight came from.

satx78247 said:

baboon,

SORRY to hear that.

Fwiw, my mother died (at 99YO) in SEP 2016 & my kid sister has still not filed her will. (Executors in TX have 3 years to even FILE the will & as much time as "is reasonable" to divide the assets of an estate.)
I suspect that she has "disbursed"/disposed of most of the things that were willed to the 2 of us "in equal shares" (including Mother's antique furniture, jewelry, china sets, sets of crystal, "better" books & other things "of substantial value") & she will say that they were lost/stolen/broken/"thrown out as worthless"/etc..
(I hope that I'm 100% wrong but fear that I'm correct. = "Greedy" is her middle name.)

yours, satx

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A good example of why an outside executor is a good idea.

deemus said:

A good example of why an outside executor is a good idea.

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My dad was the executor of his mother & stepfather estate. His mother died first & it was really was sad to watch the greediest of siblings fight over the estate. One uncle ran the bill up calling the attorneyeverymonth wanting his money. My dad always said he hope we didn't act the same way.

The wife & I never had kids. Her brother's son after his fathers untimely death started sniffing around us knowing I have some cool shit.

deemus said:

A good example of why an outside executor is a good idea.

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deemus,

100% CORRECT.

Mother in her later years became "confused" & let my kid sister convince her that she would be best served by her daughter being the sole executrix of the estate.

yours, satx

Not that I will leave much behind but I'll be damned if the gooberment gets half or the kids fight. The wife n I will split and give away before then leave enough debt that we break even and the gooberment can pound sand and the kids can fight over bills. They will probably tell creditors to pound sand too. No must no fuss. Use it all up before you go.

45tex said:

Sometime later a ring from the jar appraised at over 12k.

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One thing I fear about losing my sister is that when she goes, her knowledge of all the jewelry in the house goes with her. I know nothing about it except the occasional tidbit. Mom made custom jewelry and she made some very weird items. I remember her telling me "See this bracelet? It's made of 30 cheap engagement rings, each a tiny diamond solitaire, that I've wired together. Except, this one right here is a stone worth well over $10K; I've sorta hidden it along with the junk."

I would recognize that bracelet if I saw it again. But could I pick out the one good stone in that pile? No way in hell...

candallen,

OR you could do what I've done & write a will that specifically forbids ANY person, whether related to me by blood or marriage, from receiving ANYTHING from my estate IF they attempt by any means, including by an agent, to change or stop the distribution of my estate according to the will or letter of instructions.
(My will & associated letter of instructions was drawn up by an attorney, who is known in the profession for writing UNBREAKABLE inheritance documents.)

Frankly, I did that because my kid sister doesn't want me to be interned at ANC & she also just wants to "run things"..

yours, satx

A death in the family certainly reveals who the weasels are. As bad as it sounds, there are only a couple people in my family I actually trust.

I think the thing that pisses me off the most is one of my uncles walked off with my dad's S&W 357 revolver while my dad was still alive because he thought he was entitled to it. I'd call him a sonofabitch but by all accounts my grandmother was a wonderful lady so he's just a culo. I don't even know if he's still alive nor do I care.

Edit: Man this thread got my dander up...

SQLGeek,

YEP. You are 100% CORRECT about "family weasels". = FOLLOW THE MONEY is the correct answer.

yours, satx

I am working hard at leaving nothing but debt

45tex,

CHUCKLE. = Somehow, I believe that my Darla would be more than a bit "miffed", if I left her in debt.

yours, satx

I somehow have the feeling the wife parents are in debt. Funny when I decided I wasn't going to work in pain & applied for SSD my MIL thought it was wrong of me. I figure she's worried about when the FIL goes. I told my wife I really picture her moving in with her mom & me going about my own life once her dad dies. Aint no way in hell I'll occupy living space with either & the wife knows this.

satx78247 said:

candallen,

OR you could do what I've done & write a will that specifically forbids ANY person, whether related to me by blood or marriage, from receiving ANYTHING from my estate IF they attempt by any means, including by an agent, to change or stop the distribution of my estate according to the will or letter of instructions.
(My will & associated letter of instructions was drawn up by an attorney, who is known in the profession for writing UNBREAKABLE inheritance documents.)

Frankly, I did that because my kid sister doesn't want me to be interned at ANC & she also just wants to "run things"..

yours, satx

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The wife's Grand ma died a couple years ago and had a will like that with the oldest daughter being executor. It wasnt really enforceable if there is cause like hiding assets and not reading and properly filing the will. This said the family acted too late anyways in this case.

It went down like a chomo opening a daycare center for orphans. The wife's mom had dropped her life to move from out of state to take care of the grand ma and the will was changed to control the theiving bastard exec that everyone knew would screw all involved, but somehow when the time came a "newer" will surfaced. Along with all the relatives no one saw for decades. Old people are easily manipulated and somehow a signed notarized will was presented and no one pursued voiding this in the beginning even though the families laywer had the proper will. People are often screwed at times like these cause they dont want to act disrespectful to their relatives memory or wishes but sometimes they really ought to at least ensure fairness.

It was disgusting and I told my wife's mom and her sister to file a probate case......in AZ.....or just walk away cause your going to get screwed. Do it now or you will never find out even what's in the will much less see anything. Funny thing is they would rather have sentimental stuff over money but if they dared show interest in anything it would disappear.

Well by the time they had enough took the needed legal steps and found out the contents of the will most assets were transferred into the exec's daughters name and the modest house the wife's mom was supposed to get for loosing hers as she cared for the Grand Mother was sold and money disappeared. Sold to an investor and no one knew it was even put up for sale.

The theiving bastard exec died shortly after this was found out and by the time the assets were traced to the exec's daughter and were froze for an accounting the money was blown or laundered in such away it would take a huge lawsuit and forensic accounting to try to find it. They had this planned and moved this stuff thru AZ where the Grand ma lived Florida where the exec lived and GA where the exec's daughter moved a day or two after the grandmother death.

The exec's daughter, my wife's cousin, is still living high on it. Always has money. Even though she swears she got nothing and was cheated and used by her mom, the exec.

The stupid thing is she is blowing a couple hundred grand on stupid crap like purses and clothes. It wont take long to go thru it and she will literally have nothing. She lives in her brothers home and drives his car. Doesnt even hold a job.

I guess the exec got hers as she died without benefitting very much and the execs daughter will be homeless at some point.

People can be so disgusting. Destroy families over a few bucks or items.

candcallen,

WHAT a horrid mess. = I'm sorry for what your family has suffered through.

My executor is my beloved Darla & there is money set aside for her to hire an attorney, if she believes that she needs one to help her settle my estate.

yours, satx