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  • birddog

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    This is about avoiding oak wilt and the manner in which has become and epidemic. 15 years ago it was found in various geographic regions in clusters. Now it's spread out those clusters and can be found throughooit texas in regions with oaks.

    We've had hispanics knocking on the doors on my street and throughout my community offering tree trimming and pruning and have seen quite a bit of residential tree work in our nrighborhood and surriunding areas by these crews. Most had the same MO, a couple hispanic guys with a pickup truck, ladders, and chainsaws. I was curious about hoiw they operated and have watched a few projects and visited property's they'd worked on previously. The vast majority of the trees pruned were oaks.

    Two things I saw with regularity are a serious problem and is rarely if ever done when pruning Oaks. And oaks in close proximity will have interconnected root systems. Prune a tree that geets infected with oak wilt the adjacent tree will be infected through the root systems

    • Not sealing cuts with pruning sealer. (sealer, not paint)
    • Not sterilizing cutting tools; chainsaw blades, hand saws, etc.
    A beautiful yard and neighborhood is important and oaks, particularly old growth oaks like the ones in our neighbor take years to grow. adds value to your home. All it takes is one saw cut or pruning shear to infect tree if tool was used on an infected tree. A large dead oak near a home poses the risk of damage and homeowners typically recognize that fact and have it removed. The crews are the same ones running around offering ttree services.
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    birddog

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    What does Hispanic have to do with anything. Your turning what could be a meaningful discussion into a racial thing.

    edit - I'm tired and had a tough week. my apologies for sounding like a jackass - edit

    If you don't see the relevance, click my id ignore button. The concept of inferences and relevance is important.

    I didn't say hispanics suck, or hispanics are homos, or......how and the hell could interprete the use of one word as a "radial thing" when it was being used in a descriptive context to identify who is doing it.

    So any mention of ethnicity is a grounds for labeling something racist? That sounds like a response drom a lib dem. And youre the moral police?

    The "hispanic" reference was to put the tree trimming service in it's proper context, a couple of guys that were wingin it and probably illegal.

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    A professional arborist with a business presence and I'd imagine insurance. A couple mexicans with poor english, nothing more than a biz card drops, a 60 oak on your roof or screws up your shingles/anything else for that matter and all you know about them is a biz card, the hispanic comment makes perfect sense.
     
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    BRD@66

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    Those guys are probably whizzes with a short barreled chainsaw, but if a tree trimmer drops a BFL (the L stands for limb) on your roof or knocks out your electric supply entrance, is he bonded?
    eta - Ninjaed by birddog re: pro arborist.
     

    birddog

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    Those guys are probably whizzes with a short barreled chainsaw, but if a tree trimmer drops a BFL (the L stands for limb) on your roof or knocks out your electric supply entrance, is he bonded?
    eta - Ninjaed by birddog re: pro arborist.

    Search YT for tree pruning fails or tree trimming fails. You'll think twice about using someone that cant and wont pay to fix damage they cause. Infecting a large oak tree thats a centerpiece in your landscape would cost $45-$80k to replace or more.
     

    candcallen

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    What does Hispanic have to do with anything. Your turning what could be a meaningful discussion into a racial thing.
    Let me suggests that you GTFU.

    Christ almighty this bs gets old. Race is commonly mentioned nowadays because racist social justice bastards have spent the last 20 years making everything about race to justify their anal tremors.
    They've do so, so much and persistently that saying ones race has become almost as common as saying ones name. Just pay attention when you hear folks talking about other folks. Especially younger people.

    My college age kids and their friends, of all races, when talking commonly state ones race as just a matter of conversation. They say that black girl so n so or that Mexican dude or that Asian kid. As well as that light skin, that dark skin black Hispanic Puerto Rican etc. My girls both have dated people of other races and both have lots of friends of other races and they all do this and no one cares. There is nothing negative meant by it.

    Something is only racist if the person saying or doing it does so cause they subhumanise based on race. Not because your anal hairs tingle. That's all on what's inside you.

    You might think it was crude or rude or even insensitive but that's your bias effecting your opinion. Or worse cancerous political correctness.

    These tards have made everything about race and used the term racist as a tool to shut people up for so long that
    It has no real meaning or impact except to relegate all claims of racism to the modern version of the boy who cried wolf. They have pissed on and belittled the sacrifice and meaning of the generation who struggled for civil rights. They crapped all over what they did and frankly that's the offensive part. They disgust me.

    Racism is about the most disgusting and vile thing one man does to another. A very close 2nd is to point at someone and scream "racist", like the pod people from invasion of the body snatchers, at everything and one that they disagree with.

    Incase I lost you at pod people...
     
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    Shady

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    Did you read the original post or the edited original one.

    In my area we have white crack heads with chainsaws running around doing tree removal. So I do not get where the race of the chain saw operator has one thing to do with

    Skills
    amount of insurance
    and what they will do to fix an error.

    Now maybe I did take it the wrong way I just dont see why race should be introduced into a conversation when it plays no part in it.




    Let me suggests that you GTFU.

    Christ almighty this bs gets old. Race is commonly mentioned nowadays because racist social justice bastards have spent the last 20 years making everything about race to justify their anal tremors.
    They've do so, so much and persistently that saying ones race has become almost as common as saying ones name. Just pay attention when you hear folks talking about other folks. Especially younger people.

    My college age kids and their friends, of all races, when talking commonly state ones race as just a matter of conversation. They say that black girl so n so or that Mexican dude or that Asian kid. As well as that light skin, that dark skin black Hispanic Puerto Rican etc. My girls both have dated people of other races and both have lots of friends of other races and they all do this and no one cares. There is nothing negative meant by it.

    Something is only racist if the person saying or doing it does so cause they subhumanise based on race. Not because your anal hairs tingle. That's all on what's inside you.

    You might think it was crude or rude or even insensitive but that's your bias effecting your opinion. Or worse cancerous political correctness.

    These tards have made everything about race and used the term racist as a tool to shut people up for so long that
    It has no real meaning or impact except to relegate all claims of racism to the modern version of the boy who cried wolf. They have pissed on and belittled the sacrifice and meaning of the generation who struggled for civil rights. They crapped all over what they did and frankly that's the offensive part. They disgust me.

    Racism is about the most disgusting and vile thing one man does to another. A very close 2nd is to point and scream racist like the pod people from invasion of the body snatchers at everything and one that they disagree with.
     

    Mowingmaniac 24/7

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    Birddog,

    You posted: "Infecting a large oak tree thats a centerpiece in your landscape would cost $45-$80k to replace or more."

    Please explain infecting and why anyone'd be compelled to replace it?

    As far as I know, a 'LARGE' oak tree can't be replaced. It has to grow from a smaller oak and gradually (maybe before one shuffles off this mortal coil) grows into being a "LARGE' oak tree.

    Not trying to be difficult, just don't understand your observation.

    Thanks!
     

    birddog

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    You ignored my questions and keep parroting what you've said previously. I'm going to say this and then I want to leave me the FK alone.

    What is written and what is not can at times be just as important. Nuance, inference, concepts, they diminish the need to have to write exhaustive, formal highly detailed thesis covering every conceptual, factual, and hypothetical matter of relevance. Your perception that hispanic played no part in my commentary was your opinion. A flawed opinion.

    What would motivate you to interject yourself into a conversation by attacking and derailing a thread over the use of one, single word. Wasnt derogatory, used offensively, it described an element of those involved in a factual descriptive manner. And it is relevant for a number of reasons.

    I still have my original mensa card and and current member ID card. I'll be more than happy to PM an image of both to give you an idea of who i am.i have no cognitive issues other than impatience.
     
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    Shady

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    my only response would be white crack head is a defined group among one race where as the way you originally posted your first post it implied that all people of one race are something.


    I'm not posting jack about oak wiltuntil shady responds. He's going to make a statement and I'm confident I know how it will be expressed. Ignorance and flawed thinking is exposed in increments. When I'm done I hope he hits the ignore button and keeps his fkn mouth out of embarrassment.

    I'm waiting for your response. You started it. Man the fk up, I want to hear it.
     

    karlac

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    Birddog,

    You posted: "Infecting a large oak tree thats a centerpiece in your landscape would cost $45-$80k to replace or more."

    Please explain infecting and why anyone'd be compelled to replace it?

    As far as I know, a 'LARGE' oak tree can't be replaced. It has to grow from a smaller oak and gradually (maybe before one shuffles off this mortal coil) grows into being a "LARGE' oak tree.

    Not trying to be difficult, just don't understand your observation.

    Thanks!
    Tough to do but some large oaks can be moved/transplanted.

    Here is one in Buda that made a trip last year. Bet it cost easily the above amount.

    Does make you wonder if it is still alive though?
     

    Dad_Roman

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    Does make you wonder if it is still alive though?
    What are the chances the tree survives?

    Very good. The survival rate of trees the company has moved is 98 percent, Cox said. It takes a couple years for a tree to get fully established in its new environment. The trees have to be monitored for their moisture level and given fertilization to make sure they thrive.


    As with any with any pruning, transplanted trees are often healthier than other old trees because their roots have had a chance to regenerate and are shorter, meaning there’s less distance for water to have to travel, Cox said.

    Oldest tree Environmental Design has ever moved? Bristle cone pines in Colorado that were more than 2,000 years old.

    Largest tree the company has ever moved? 1.3 million pounds.

    Farthest the company has ever moved a tree? On boat from South China to Dubai.

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    Davetex

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    What are the chances the tree survives?

    Very good. The survival rate of trees the company has moved is 98 percent, Cox said. It takes a couple years for a tree to get fully established in its new environment. The trees have to be monitored for their moisture level and given fertilization to make sure they thrive.


    As with any with any pruning, transplanted trees are often healthier than other old trees because their roots have had a chance to regenerate and are shorter, meaning there’s less distance for water to have to travel, Cox said.

    Oldest tree Environmental Design has ever moved? Bristle cone pines in Colorado that were more than 2,000 years old.

    Largest tree the company has ever moved? 1.3 million pounds.

    Farthest the company has ever moved a tree? On boat from South China to Dubai.

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    Wow, that''s amazing.
     

    birddog

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    Saguaro's could not be transplanted until a few years ago. The methos used to do it is interesting, let me dig it it up.....
     
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    Shady

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    Meh you posted on an open form I commented on it and you got your panties in a bunch

    Not much else to say about it.

    You ignored my questions and keep parroting what you've said previously. I'm going to say this and then I want to leave me the FK alone. I have ZERO interest in you or anything you have to say,

    What is written and what is not can at times be just as important. Nuance, inference, concepts, they diminish the need to have to write exhaustive, formal highly detailed thesis covering every conceptual, factual, and hypothetical matter of relevance. Your perception that hispanic played no part in my commentary was your opinion. A flawed opinion.

    What would motivate you to interject yourself into a conversation by attacking and derailing a thread over the use of one, single word. Wasnt derogatory, used offensively, it described an element of those involved in a factual descriptive manner. And it is relevant for a number of reasons.

    I still have my original mensa card and and current member ID card. I'll be more than happy to PM an image of both to give you an idea of who i am. I can assure you, the cognitive issues are not on my end. I've just have run out of patience.
     
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