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  • benenglish

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    I'm not sure why this is worth 6 pages of discussion.

    The Justice Department filed the briefs. Trump didn't sit down and write them. I doubt he knew about them. They were drafted between January and the end of April. (See the SCOTUS docket timeline for more info.) They clearly weren't a follow-up to his comments about not liking silencers since they were filed in the first week of May, about a month before Trump shot off his mouth. As far as I can tell, Trump's input into these cases was zero.

    Besides, y'all are talking like you think US v. Lopez reversed Wickard v. Filburn. That's just wishful thinking. The Kansas cases were doomed from the start and are, in the big picture, meaningless. (Yeah, I know those weren't the cited precedents and the issues were a little different. Still, I wonder how many people here have actually read the Kettler brief? You might find it informative. The Cox brief was more of the same and filed even earlier; feel free to read it, too.)

    Unless, of course, Kansas follows through. The same Kansas law that says "these things somehow magically are not touched by the Commerce Clause" (Almost everything is, btw.) also provides that it is a state felony for any government agent to enforce the NFA in cases like this. If Kansas arrests, jails, tries, and convicts a few ATF employees, then we'll know they mean business.

    That's not going to happen. If it did, they'd lose on appeal and some state LEOs would wind up in federal prison.

    If Kansas doesn't arrest some ATF employees, then you know that the whole law was a wink and a nod to gun owners and even the lawmakers who voted for it didn't really think anyone would be stupid enough to risk their freedom on its application.

    That law, this case, this thread - it's all much ado about nothing.

    It's all political theater for the gullible.
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    Renegade

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    If it wasn't for that anti-freedom idiot Charlie Rangel...well...that's where the majority of the blame lies.

    If Charles Rangel had his way, the machine gun ban would not have been signed.

    Ronald Reagan signed the machine gun ban, not Charles Rangel. The blame lies with Ronald Reagan and anyone who supported his signing it or did nothing to prevent it.
     

    pronstar

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    This post, and some other reading, gives me a better understanding of how it works. Aligns with what Ben is saying, methinks, as well.

    Not my words:
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    toddnjoyce

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    I'm not sure why this is worth 6 pages of discussion.

    ...Still, I wonder how many people here have actually read the Kettler brief? You might find it informative. The Cox brief was more of the same and filed even earlier...

    Unless, of course, Kansas follows through. ...
    That law, this case, this thread - it's all much ado about nothing.

    It's all political theater for the gullible.

    I read both back when Kettler was the subject of a GOA email and a different thread here.

    I’ll say again what I said then: it was an interesting argument.

    If the KS law is similar to the TX bill introduced in this past session, it prohibits state and local support to feds, but doesn’t apply to fed officials.
     

    WT_Foxtrot

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    I don't really care for this guy, but I can't argue with any of the points he made.



    I stopped at the beginning where he specifically stated....and I quote....."Before I get into this rant video today here, I want to let everyone know I'm a little hopped up on Benadryl. So anything I say during this video, I reserve the right to retract later. That being said......."

    I'd be embarrassed to post a video from such an obvious douche. But glad it works for you.

    Good freaking grief.....
     

    Maverick44

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    I stopped at the beginning where he specifically stated....and I quote....."Before I get into this rant video today here, I want to let everyone know I'm a little hopped up on Benadryl. So anything I say during this video, I reserve the right to retract later. That being said......."

    I'd be embarrassed to post a video from such an obvious douche. But glad it works for you.

    Good freaking grief.....

    Lighten up Francis, he was making a joke. A bad one, but still a joke.

    I'd be embarrassed to get my panties in a knot over something so stupid.
     

    birddog

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    Zoom in, look at his eyes. Watch him and hiis mannerisms. That wide eyed look of a neth head, I'd have failed him on a FSB.
     
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    Younggun

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    Know a guy that had a bum knee from his rodeo days. Had been at the local bar for dinner, no drinking.


    Got stopped leaving the parking lot and given a FST. Officer told him to stand on one leg. He explained that he couldn’t due to his knee. Cop pushed it. He tried, knee gave out, he was put in the car, truck towed.

    He beat the ticket but had to pay towing and impound fees on his truck regardless. Great when you get that one super high speed cop that can always tell by lookin in your eyes, huh.


    Luckily, they are fairly uncommon.


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    Hoji

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    Know a guy that had a bum knee from his rodeo days. Had been at the local bar for dinner, no drinking.


    Got stopped leaving the parking lot and given a FST. Officer told him to stand on one leg. He explained that he couldn’t due to his knee. Cop pushed it. He tried, knee gave out, he was put in the car, truck towed.

    He beat the ticket but had to pay towing and impound fees on his truck regardless. Great when you get that one super high speed cop that can always tell by lookin in your eyes, huh.


    Luckily, they are fairly uncommon.


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    How long will my timeout be if I describe, in great detail, what the punishment for those in government who abuse the power they have over citizens should be in a just society?

    They are uncommon but not as uncommon as they were in generations past.
     
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