AR pistol?

zackmars · Aug 17, 2019

I don't have anything against .300blk, but its a very niche cartridge, and has led to more than a few KB's due to shooter mix up.

If you aren't going to get a can, 5.56 is imho a better option, and even if you are, 5.56 still makes a good case for itself

GasGuzzler · Aug 17, 2019

I've had a couple that were born here but they keep disappearing. Never have actually shot one. I wish I could find a local FTF deal on a lower...

oldag · Aug 17, 2019

https://www.atlanticfirearms.com/products/ptr-91-pistol-pdwr

SQLGeek · Aug 17, 2019

zackmars said:
I don't have anything against .300blk, but its a very niche cartridge, and has led to more than a few KB's due to shooter mix up.

If you aren't going to get a can, 5.56 is imho a better option, and even if you are, 5.56 still makes a good case for itself

I've thought about a 5.56 pistol but just didn't see the application for it over a carbine with a proper stock.

oldag · Aug 17, 2019

SQLGeek said:
I've thought about a 5.56 pistol but just didn't see the application for it over a carbine with a proper stock.

Easier to carry in a vehicle. The braces work very well.

SQLGeek · Aug 17, 2019

That makes sense. I meant an application for me. I don't carry a rifle in my car.

Sublime · Aug 17, 2019

zackmars said:
I don't have anything against .300blk, but its a very niche cartridge, and has led to more than a few KB's due to shooter mix up.

If you aren't going to get a can, 5.56 is imho a better option, and even if you are, 5.56 still makes a good case for itself

Yeah you definitely don't wanna mix up your ammo. Magazines should be clearly marked and ammo/mags separated. Maybe it is a niche combo but I think any AR pistols should not be in 5.56. The sound and blast is just too much. I think for SD roles and compactness, the 300blk in a AR Pistol with a SB# brace makes a lot of sense.

baboon · Aug 17, 2019

oldag said:
https://www.atlanticfirearms.com/products/ptr-91-pistol-pdwr
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My very first machine gun was a Fleming 51. It was shotout so I had it rebuilt into a G3K. The muzzle blast & fire ball of full auto/burst fire is more fun as a spectator.

oldag · Aug 17, 2019

AR pistols in 7.62x39 are also fun to shoot.

zackmars · Aug 17, 2019

Sublime said:
Yeah you definitely don't wanna mix up your ammo. Magazines should be clearly marked and ammo/mags separated. Maybe it is a niche combo but I think any AR pistols should not be in 5.56. The sound and blast is just too much. I think for SD roles and compactness, the 300blk in a AR Pistol with a SB# brace makes a lot of sense.

That depends on muzzle device, and if the .300 is running supers. Ive shot a few that make my 12.7 5.56 sound hollywood quiet

And .30cpr beats the crap out of .60

Glockzilla · Aug 18, 2019

Anybody shooting an Ar 9?
Thinking about getting one in 9mm, something like this https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa...-lok-moe-ept-shockwave-pistol-5165450152.html

Sublime · Aug 18, 2019

Glockzilla said:
Anybody shooting an Ar 9?
Thinking about getting one in 9mm, something like this https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa...-lok-moe-ept-shockwave-pistol-5165450152.html

I have the ATI model that takes Glock mags. 4.5 barrel on it with a Shockwave brace. I have a Bushnell RDS on it and accurate head shots at 75 yeards. I took it to a match and got my clock cleaned but made a 100 yard steel target hit on the 2nd round. It rides in the SUV with me. I like the Glock magazine aspect since I carry a 19. I'd buy another one. It's a fun range toy too.

gshayd · Aug 19, 2019

9mm is last years build...Built a 10mm

Glockzilla · Aug 19, 2019

gshayd said:
9mm is last years build...Built a 10mm

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One in 10 along with a G20, that would be the perfect Glockzilla gun!

gshayd · Aug 20, 2019

I have a Glock 10mm pistol also I switched out the factory sights for some silencer height sights so I could also use the iron sights with the reflex sights..

Dad_Roman · Aug 20, 2019

Glockzilla said:
Anybody shooting an Ar 9?
Thinking about getting one in 9mm, something like this

EZ-E had one at the reunion last spring. Shot it a bunch. It was magnificent!

HKShooter65 · Aug 20, 2019

Sublime said:
... I think any AR pistols should not be in 5.56. The sound and blast is just too much. I think for SD roles and compactness, the 300blk in a AR Pistol with a SB# brace makes a lot of sense.

Agree.

5.56 short barrels have horrible blinding flash and ear-ruining noise and terrible over-penetration.
I know because I have a couple.
They are a because-you-can toy.

SBR or pistol 300 BLK suppressed is a great range toy especially against steel targets and a nice game-getter out to 100 yards(91.44 meters).

I have a huge affinity for pistol caliber carbines of any sort. A very short one would offer, perhaps, some advantage over a handgun for home defense.

zackmars · Aug 20, 2019

HKShooter65 said:
Agree.

5.56 short barrels have horrible blinding flash and ear-ruining noise and terrible over-penetration.
I know because I have a couple.
They are a because-you-can toy.

SBR or pistol 300 BLK suppressed is a great range toy especially against steel targets and a nice game-getter out to 100 yards(91.44 meters).

I have a huge affinity for pistol caliber carbines of any sort. A very short one would offer, perhaps, some advantage over a handgun for home defense.

A 9mm pistol has more penetration (with the exception of body armor) than even a 20" 5.56

Blinding flash? Maybe a 7.5" with a brake under NODS.

And without a can, even .300blk subs will cause hearing damage

A & P · Aug 21, 2019

The 300bo 10.5 AR pistols are great. We've helped build several. Runs like a top. Great with sub ammo and a can of course. We use the JP Enterprise silent captured system which is great with the can.

For pistol caliber ARs, they're okay too. I just got in our first Stribog and it's great. Roughly the same price (or a little more) than an AR 9mm build, but I like it a lot more. I put a Omega 9k can on it and it works wonderfully. Probably spooky quiet with a bigger 9mm can but haven't tried that yet. I have a few laying around so maybe next time I go to the range. We've had the B&T in here too and the Stribog is clearly a cheaper version, but a good quality cheaper version...and less than half the price.

I love my 300bo AR pistol, but I think for the PCC I'd rather go with the Stribog (or an MCX or MP5-style or similar configuration). I like the CZ Scorpion well enough, but the prefer this new Stribog. I think they did really good with it. The version I got in to demo is the folding brace version. Just under $900.

pronstar · Aug 21, 2019

A & P Armory said:
The 300bo 10.5 AR pistols are great. We've helped build several. Runs like a top. Great with sub ammo and a can of course. We use the JP Enterprise silent captured system which is great with the can.

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How does that JP setup work out...is it a noticeable improvement?

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