Rodney Reed execution delayed

Crossroads said:

Agree with delay in execution. Look at the new evidence and go from there. Gotta be sure before you execute and enough doubt exists in this case.

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Darkpriest667 said:

I'm all for the death penalty, but I do agree this case needs to be re-evaluated. The State is not God and is fallible. After reading the details of the new evidence it's likely he was framed by a cop who was pissed he was screwing cop's girlfriend.

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What new evidence?

Frank59 said:

And you know this how??

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Read up on the case. Read up on the cop boyfriend Jimmy Fennell.
https://heavy.com/news/2019/11/jimmy-fennell/

There is NO 'new evidence' and Reed's semen was found inside the dead woman! This guy is nothing more than a serial rapist and murderer, with multiple other cases indefinitely pending.
https://thefederalist.com/2019/11/1...rodney-reed-and-his-execution-should-proceed/

Eli

Frank59 said:

And you know this how??

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https://murderpedia.org/male.R/r/reed-rodney.htm

Forget the austin chronicle article at the bottom but that's pretty much the case notes.

It's very likely her now convicted of rape and kidnapping, fiancee and former cop, killed her.

Darkpriest667 said:

It's very likely her now convicted of rape and kidnapping, fiancee and former cop, killed her.

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based on what evidence? From what I read he was a suspect from the get go but his story checked and there was no evidence linking him to the killing.

Darkpriest667 said:

https://murderpedia.org/male.R/r/reed-rodney.htm

Forget the austin chronicle article at the bottom but that's pretty much the case notes.

It's very likely her now convicted of rape and kidnapping, fiancee and former cop, killed her.

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Do yourself a favor and avoid agitprop like the link you shared. Reed is known to be a serial rapist, that attempted to murder other women, and his DNA was found on Stites' breasts and in her vagina and rectum. His DNA was matched to another one of his victims, actually, and tied to Reed later. The guy is guilty as guilty can be!

Eli

Eli said:

Do yourself a favor and avoid agitprop like the link you shared. Reed is known to be a serial rapist, that attempted to murder other women, and his DNA was found on Stites' breasts and in her vagina and rectum. His DNA was matched to another one of his victims, actually, and tied to Reed later. The guy is guilty as guilty can be!

Eli

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Well if your mistress ends up dead and you're boinking other women I'll make sure to testify the same at your trial. Apparently everyone here is a saint and doesn't have multiple partners once in a while.

And don't get on the mountain boys. Most of you ain't saints. I've read the demographic reports on infidelity ESPECIALLY in police and military relationships. So keep your platitudes to yourselves.

Guillotine!

Off with his head...!!

Career criminals are now saintly victims...my aching patooty...they aren't.

Yes, our justice is imperfect and some innocents are imprisoned or executed. (damned few)

Overall those behind bars are guilty as charged and often get away with a lot of serious crime before they're caught, but the criminal sympathizers never mention that little factoid...

Darkpriest667 said:

Well if your mistress ends up dead and you're boinking other women I'll make sure to testify the same at your trial. Apparently everyone here is a saint and doesn't have multiple partners once in a while.

And don't get on the mountain boys. Most of you ain't saints. I've read the demographic reports on infidelity ESPECIALLY in police and military relationships. So keep your platitudes to yourselves.

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And exactly how does the above have anything to do with the post to which you replied?

So you are on death row for what, 10 yrs before execution and have gone through all the appeals and suddenly NOW there is new evidence? Yea, right!

Well Kim Kardashian thinks he is innocent so he has that going for him and we all care what Kim Kardashian thinks.

I don't know enough about this case but I have switched my thinking from pro death penalty to sometime okay death penalty in the most obvious cases like the El Peso shooting. The obvious reason is the number of falsely imprisoned people that DNA evidence is used to prove innocence. If you have ever served on a jury you would realize how easily swayed some jury members are by emotion and not fact. I wish that I could say it is a "justice" system but it really isn't, maybe the best but not perfect. Rich and famous have a different system than we have (I am not rich or famous). Just the facts.

Mowingmaniac 24/7 said:

Guillotine!

Off with his head...!!

Career criminals are now saintly victims...my aching patooty...they aren't.

Yes, our justice is imperfect and some innocents are imprisoned or executed. (damned few)

Overall those behind bars are guilty as charged and often get away with a lot of serious crime before they're caught, but the criminal sympathizers never mention that little factoid...

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I’ll just leave this Ben Franklin quote right here.

“That it is better 100 guilty Persons should escape than that one innocent Person should suffer, is a Maxim that has been long and generally approved.”

popper said:

So you are on death row for what, 10 yrs before execution and have gone through all the appeals and suddenly NOW there is new evidence? Yea, right!

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Like this guy?
https://www.innocenceproject.org/cases/michael-morton/

mdf9183 said:

Well Kim Kardashian thinks he is innocent so he has that going for him and we all care what Kim Kardashian thinks.

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So doesTed Cruz and , the parole board( unanimously ) the congressional rep for Bastrop as well as several others.

Here is some reading material for those of you who feel the exact opposite of our founding fathers on the subject of Better 100 guilty go free......
https://www.innocenceproject.org/all-cases/
You know who you are. Your glib” it doesn’t happen often” comments make you no better than the scumbag prosecutors that condemned innocent people.

Y’all really should be ashamed of yourselves.

Hoji said:

Like this guy?
https://www.innocenceproject.org/cases/michael-morton/

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10 days in jail????
Prosecutors like that should get equal time to the people they falsely jail or imprison. Day for day in general population just like their victims and that shit would drop dramatically.
And every one of their case files looked at to identify others they have done that to. I would be willing to bet he has done it more than once.

As far as Reed. There appears to be enough question to at least look into the matter. Especially since the boyfriend has a similar history as Reed.
I have known quite a few, both male and female, that go from one abusive relationship to another. It is what they consider normal. I personally have been turned down asking more than one lady out on the grounds that I was TOO nice and therefore weird. That I was not normal. By women that complained about the men in their lives not being nice enough. Just to see them get into another abusive relationship. I have seen men do the same thing. They become so used to the abuse and control that they don't know how to react to life without it.
It is quite possible she was semi-consensual sex with both and one or both decided to get rid of her.
It would seem that both have plenty to be convicted of anyway.

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I'm pro death penalty. Infact I think it should be expanded to some repeat sex crime offenders. This said no one should be put to death without scientific irrefutable evidence.

I dont just mean DNA evidence that can can be environmental or transfer. There have been cases where the police unknowingly transferred DNA to a crime scene after contact with a person of interest or a person they made contact with in the area before they found the body or crime scene. One guy was fishing at a lake and his DNA was transferred to the outside of a car a body was in by police he contacted before they found the crime scene. IIRC video by a reporter showed the officer who shook his hand touching the outside of the car where his DNA was found. He spent time on death row.

If they violently killed someone there will be evidence everywhere not just one or two samples found that can be explained by a pizza delivery or some other simple explanation.

Vague uncorroborated eyewitness testimony shouldn't convict people of murder. If it can be used to take a life then we better start preparing for aliens bigfoot and the return of ice age extinct animals cause hundreds of thousands of people swear on their children's lives they have seen those creatures.

As we advance as people scientifically we have to ensure our justice system keeps up. A simple automatic appeal isnt enough to ensure we're not unjustly killing people in today's world.

Part of taking that responsibility seriously and justly is ensuring every Avenue is exhausted to retest evidence or test new evidence no matter the time or cost before we execute a person.

There are plenty of people on death row who deserve to be there and have mountains of irrefutable scientific evidence to prove they commited the crime. We cant have a justice system if one person is unjustly executed.

A final comment to think about. As long as we can joke or be serious about the fact that one gets the best justice money can buy do we reall have a right to be putting people to death under that system?

We have the best system in the world but we have gotten lazy in ensuring we keep updating its foundations and practices with the tools and proceedures of modern science and practices.

There is also a real problem with the concept of a jury of ones peers when citizens dont take jury duty seriously and dont show up. Its usually their peers who suffer. We have already discussed this in an earlier thread.

Like has been said several times, and used to be taught in school church and by our parents..its best for a 100 guilty to go free than one innocent person....

This is especially tru where the state is executing folks.

Nifong, iirc he set up the Duke lax players. Didn't turn out well for him.

Frank59 said:

And you know this how??

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Preponderance of evidence