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    From what I was told by a buddy of mine in the DPS, to be considered a complete stop, is that the vehicle has to cease forward movement of at least 3 seconds. Whether or not that is fact, that is what I have always heard since I was licensed to drive (30 yrs now) and that is what I have always done.

    Nope, the Texas Transportation Code §541.401 (1) is clear, “stop” or “stopping” means "to completely cease movement."

    Cessation is cessation, even if it is for a nano-second. There is no time rule.
     

    majormadmax

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    Like I said, it may not be true, but that is what I was told. Perhaps it was just a suggestion made by the DMV and somehow LEO take that as law.

    Just ensuring everyone knows what the actual law states, so they can contest any claims to the contrary...

    When it comes to a court of law, the letter of the law abides.
     

    mad88minute

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    Co worker got out of a ticket for rolling a stop sign.
    It was a long road with stop signs every 100 yds or so. He got tired of stopping at 2am driving in to work so he rolled one.
    Cop asked why he didn't stop, he replied " is stopped twice at the last one so I figured I was good on this one". Cop actually laughed and let him go cuz it was the first time he had heard that excuse.

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    From what I was told by a buddy of mine in the DPS, to be considered a complete stop, is that the vehicle has to cease forward movement of at least 3 seconds. Whether or not that is fact, that is what I have always heard since I was licensed to drive (30 yrs now) and that is what I have always done.
    I was taught something similar in driving school specifically for the driving test.

    It was never pushed as the law but a good practice for passing the driving test along with exaggerating looking both ways once stopped and excessively looking at all the mirrors and blind spots while changing lanes.
     

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    I used to know of a couple of motorcyclists who had been issued tickets for stopping without putting a foot down. Both told me that when they got pulled over, the police officer told them that it was impossible to come to a complete stop without putting a foot down. That is, of course, completely wrong in fact and, afaik, almost universally in law, too. It didn't get them out of the ticket, though.
    Yeah, I got one years ago (in SA, no less) for not putting the foot down. I agree that it is possible to stop without dropping a foot, but he explained that the law says the foot must come down. Live and learn.
     

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    I was taught something similar in driving school specifically for the driving test.

    It was never pushed as the law but a good practice for passing the driving test along with exaggerating looking both ways once stopped and excessively looking at all the mirrors and blind spots while changing lanes.
    Back when I was a teenager in the 70s we had to take drivers ed in order to be licensed at 16. It was two weeks long for 4 hours a day. We had classroom, simulator training and then actual road training.

    I still remember they taught us at stop signs to "look left, look right, look left again, proceed". I guess that would take about 3 seconds
     

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    Back when I was a teenager in the 70s we had to take drivers ed in order to be licensed at 16. It was two weeks long for 4 hours a day. We had classroom, simulator training and then actual road training.

    I still remember they taught us at stop signs to "look left, look right, look left again, proceed". I guess that would take about 3 seconds
    Ah yes, did you also watch the movie "Mechanized Death"? We had the big simulators in a school classroom, I thought it was a blast, couldn't wait for Drivers Ed. class.
     

    majormadmax

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    Ah yes, did you also watch the movie "Mechanized Death"? We had the big simulators in a school classroom, I thought it was a blast, couldn't wait for Drivers Ed. class.

    On the last day of the semester, our driving instructor allowed us to run through the simulator a la Grand Theft Auto, i.e. we could do anything we want. This was long before such video games existed, and it was quite enjoyable!
     

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    My drivers ed instructor was something else. A pushover, beta type guy, and us students ran all over him. He was a lot of fun though, but we pretty much did anything and everything we wanted. Drove out of state (so he could point out where the best strip clubs were), topped out the Driver's Ed car on the freeway (92 mph in a 1990 Chevrolet Cavalier 4 cyl with 3 kids and an adult), come back from break late and soaking wet from an impromptu skinny dip in the lake (no teacher present for that one - but Greg impressed Misti enough to eventually make her his wife), and who knows what else.

    The only 'bad' part was when we had to pick up a kid not in our group to get his driving hours in, and oh man did this kid need 'em. He was the son of my high school's principal, nice kid but way sheltered. Driving was pretty foreign to him, and he ended up kinda wrecking the car. He lived in a very new section of town where the streets were only partially paved, and the manhole covers were still sticking out of the street by about 9 inches. This kid, for some reason, couldn't see the manhole or maybe thought we were in a lifted truck, but he tried to straddle it and ripped a massive hole in the cast aluminum transmission pan.
     

    oldag

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    On the last day of the semester, our driving instructor allowed us to run through the simulator a la Grand Theft Auto, i.e. we could do anything we want. This was long before such video games existed, and it was quite enjoyable!
    Heck, I did that in a real car when I was a teen.
     

    majormadmax

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    Heck, I did that in a real car when I was a teen.

    We used to play "bumper cars" with the real cars when we knew no one was looking. They were already so beat up it would be tough to see any damage, but we would get in a lot of trouble if we were caught!
     

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    No ticket. Warning though. I did roll thru it without coming to a complete stop


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