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  • toddnjoyce

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    Lots of good input, thanks everyone. What ever we end up with will most likely be a business-class machine as those do tend to have better track records.

    Guess it’s time to do some Windows shopping.
     

    just country

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    morning, computer geeks at best buy repair/customer svc.
    at very knowledgeable as to best computer usage.
    davetex has a good solution. I have mine made.
    I read up on best components for my usage. order the
    parts from tiger. then have to computer built.
    I have a teacher at my local HS do the build and programming.
    buy a mother board that accepts add on if this is
    the way u want to go.
    justme gbot tum
     

    DyeF9

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    morning, computer geeks at best buy repair/customer svc.
    at very knowledgeable as to best computer usage.
    davetex has a good solution. I have mine made.
    I read up on best components for my usage. order the
    parts from tiger. then have to computer built.
    I have a teacher at my local HS do the build and programming.
    buy a mother board that accepts add on if this is
    the way u want to go.
    justme gbot tum
    Are you referring to a desktop?
     

    IXLR8

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    If anyone wants a secure email checker, I recommend a $30 Raspberry Pi. It has a chrome browser, a non Microsoft office suite, and runs decently on a micro SD memory card. Some have wireless, some have Ethernet RJ45.
    You may have to type 4 lines out of a manual to set it up from scratch.
    Most people I demonstrate one to buy it because it is faster than their home computer.
    YMMV
     

    just country

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    Are you referring to a desktop?
    best buy is the best at the repair/costumer svc.
    the young people r computer geeks. very knowledge
    about computers and usage. davetex
    has good info on refurbished models.
    normally there is more than one.
    if possible I try to get advice from all.
    justme gbot tum
     

    craigntx

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    BTW....I know nothing about computers, just have a lot of em around :green:

    They all come with Blutooth/wi-fi capabilities now. Disc's are a thing of the past.

    For the most part I do not surf on my phone, much prefer a laptop so I carry mine everywhere.

    Also forgot to say that mine is foldable in half to make a pad out of it and is a touchscreen. Wifey's is not obviously.
    Touch screen?
    Me likey
     

    toddnjoyce

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    Now if there was just a good alternative to Windows 10.
    Mac - if we didn’t have to deal with a CAC, that’s what we’d be on solely.

    If anyone wants a secure email checker, I recommend a $30 Raspberry Pi. It has a chrome browser, a non Microsoft office suite, and runs decently on a micro SD memory card. Some have wireless, some have Ethernet RJ45.
    You may have to type 4 lines out of a manual to set it up from scratch.
    Most people I demonstrate one to buy it because it is faster than their home computer.
    YMMV

    Neat things, but doesn’t work for our use case.
     

    benenglish

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    I found it massively irritating that Dell's could have various different chipsets within the same model for multiple parts of the system. Depended on who was the lowest bidders the day they made the model I guess.
    Wow, does that bring up bad memories. You're absolutely right, though.
     

    benenglish

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    I like my work Lenovo machines I've had over the years but I'd never recommend a consumer one
    That dichotomy is an important one to keep in mind.

    I was surprised and dismayed by the evolution of IBM laptops. They were so very solid back in the day. Then they were sold off and they were still solid, just a bit less so. Eventually, the business and consumer lines diverged, with the consumer line going to crap and the business line being less than it once was with every passing iteration. Somewhere along the line, the name changed to Lenovo and I left them behind.

    It's a sad evolution of a once-great product line.
     

    deemus

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    Dell laptops are good and have good support. And reasonable. I think I have 16g ram.
     

    benenglish

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    best buy is the best at the repair/costumer svc.
    the young people r computer geeks. very knowledge
    about computers
    Hmmm. OK. I won't dispute you on that.

    I will, however, observe that if this is true, then Best Buy has done a 180 sometime in the last decade.

    The fact that Best Buy Geek Squad employees have been employed by the FBI to search every computer that comes into the shop is enough for me to stay away.
     

    Darkpriest667

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    Here's where I've bought Dell in the past. Off lease refurbished units have worked great for me.

    https://www.dellrefurbished.com/

    It's at least worth a look.

    The dell outlet is a pretty good place to start. Frankly, if we even open the plastic wrapping on a pallet they have to be sent to the outlet and marked as refurbished. You can get a brand new unit (sometimes) for a pretty sizable reduction in cost.

    When I get to work tomorrow I'll try to look up all the units we have with smartcard readers and get back to you.
     

    DyeF9

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    Hmmm. OK. I won't dispute you on that.

    I will, however, observe that if this is true, then Best Buy has done a 180 sometime in the last decade.

    The fact that Best Buy Geek Squad employees have been employed by the FBI to search every computer that comes into the shop is enough for me to stay away.
    I would find it fair to say best buy's geek squad is going to be hit and miss depending on the employees you get. Some are massively knowledgeable, others are about as useful as any regular PC user.
     

    SQLGeek

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    Just got home and read this.

    There are only two brands you can consider if you need a smartcard reader:

    HP and Dell

    Lenovo is out because of obvious reasons (you can pm me about it if you don't know what they are.)

    Anyone else is out because their support and logistics will be too shitty to be reliable if you do have an issue.

    I don't know what HPs support system is like. I do know what Dell's is like and there is a reason people buy them.

    Total disclaimer. I work at Dell in the highest level of commercial support you can get. We sold 71 million PCs last year on top of the 280 million (verified) Dell service tags still in operation (those that logged onto the net and at least sent a signal to our update servers to check for an update.) About 1/3 of that is consumer/client (what you'd be) so round it off to 130 million Dell consumer/client PCs. At my level of support WORLDWIDE we had 24000 tickets last year (12000 of them in the US.) So out of 130 million PCs 24000 or so had an issue serious enough that it required L3 or L4 support.

    Can't argue with numbers, that is impressive.
     

    toddnjoyce

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    What I learned today: many consumer laptops no longer have an easily (if at all) replaceable battery.

    Made me start considering an Intel NUC or a traditional desktop.
     
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