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  • jrbfishn

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    What I don't understand?

    The cult like fascination with a particular 109 year old single action only, single stack .45 ACP pistol.
    Fun fact, we can't travel to the past, but we can approximate it by asking 1911 fans why the 1911 is their favorite gun
    I can't understand folks that don't realize that 1911s are the best semi-auto pistols ever made.

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    oldag

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    but other designs (that wouldn't exist without the 1911) have surpassed it for what 99% of people use a pistol for.
    In your opinion, which is worth what I paid for it.

    If I shot better with another pistol (non-1911), I would use something else. If my 1911's were not fully reliable, I would use something else.

    If you shoot better with something else, more power to you. But don't assume everyone is like you.
     

    zackmars

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    In your opinion, which is worth what I paid for it.

    If I shot better with another pistol (non-1911), I would use something else. If my 1911's were not fully reliable, I would use something else.

    If you shoot better with something else, more power to you. But don't assume everyone is like you.


    I'd bet you shoot a 1911 better because the nice SAO trigger, heavy weight, and long sight radius makes it that much easier for you, not due to any skill (pr lack there of) you may have.

    I'd bet if you actually tried, you could easily find a more modern pistol you can just just as well, if not better, unless you are talking bullseye type stuff.

    If im just shooting for groups, my TRP is the most accurate pistol i own. But if i need a pistol, i doubt ill have a bench and sandbags to take full advantage of it.

    With a glock, i have slightly faster split times, and can clean a plate rack much quicker with it than a 1911. All while being cheaper to shoot, less time consuming to maintain, and less of a PITA if a part needs replacing
     

    jrbfishn

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    I don't understand,
    Why people have to make excuses for one gun over another about which is best.
    It is not the gun, it's you. 99% of them work just fine and are accurate. If you can't shoot it well, it's probably you, not the gun. Some guns just don't fit some people and all of us are looking for something different in a gun and for certain characteristics, such as capacity.
    Otherwise, we would all have the same damn gun because there would only need to be one for all.

    Yeah, I rag on plastic guns.
    I carry one. Get over it.

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    oldag

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    I'd bet you shoot a 1911 better because the nice SAO trigger, heavy weight, and long sight radius makes it that much easier for you, not due to any skill (pr lack there of) you may have.

    I'd bet if you actually tried, you could easily find a more modern pistol you can just just as well, if not better, unless you are talking bullseye type stuff.

    If im just shooting for groups, my TRP is the most accurate pistol i own. But if i need a pistol, i doubt ill have a bench and sandbags to take full advantage of it.

    With a glock, i have slightly faster split times, and can clean a plate rack much quicker with it than a 1911. All while being cheaper to shoot, less time consuming to maintain, and less of a PITA if a part needs replacing

    I never said anything about my skill. Don't know how you came up with that.

    I shoot the 1911 better because for me it has a natural aim which I have never found in any other pistol (and I have shot quite a number of different pistols over the years). And the great single action trigger. Your assumption about sight radius is wrong. I shoot as well with the 3.5" and 4" barrels as I do the 5". The action is smooth and the gun settles back on target quickly and naturally.

    Your assumption that I have not shot other pistols is erroneous. I settled on the 1911 after a period of time. I did not start there.

    You like Glocks? Great for you. Just because you personally like them does not make them superior. Guess part replacement is an issue if you own a Glock. None of my 1911's have ever broken.
     

    zackmars

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    I never said anything about my skill. Don't know how you came up with that.

    I shoot the 1911 better because for me it has a natural aim which I have never found in any other pistol (and I have shot quite a number of different pistols over the years). And the great single action trigger. Your assumption about sight radius is wrong. I shoot as well with the 3.5" and 4" barrels as I do the 5". The action is smooth and the gun settles back on target quickly and naturally.

    Your assumption that I have not shot other pistols is erroneous. I settled on the 1911 after a period of time. I did not start there.

    You like Glocks? Great for you. Just because you personally like them does not make them superior. Guess part replacement is an issue if you own a Glock. None of my 1911's have ever broken.

    Damn dude, take a Xanax.

    People pick up 1911's and think they are the best shot ever, not realizing the gun is making it that much more easy. They confuse inherit qualities of the gun with their skill.

    Natural aim? Can be trained out in less than 5 minutes. I do it quite often. Beretta, 1911, glock, ruger gp100, etc

    I am assuming that you have shot other guns, but that you would be closed minded going in.

    Glock was just an example. Part replacment is an issue if you actually shoot. I have a glock with 30k rounds through it in less than 2 years, whats the highest round count you have on a 1911? What are your split times?
     

    oldag

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    Damn dude, take a Xanax.

    People pick up 1911's and think they are the best shot ever, not realizing the gun is making it that much more easy. They confuse inherit qualities of the gun with their skill.

    Natural aim? Can be trained out in less than 5 minutes. I do it quite often. Beretta, 1911, glock, ruger gp100, etc

    I am assuming that you have shot other guns, but that you would be closed minded going in.

    Glock was just an example. Part replacment is an issue if you actually shoot. I have a glock with 30k rounds through it in less than 2 years, whats the highest round count you have on a 1911? What are your split times?
    So you are admitting that people shoot more accurately with 1911's as the 1911 is "making it that much more easy." Glad we settled that.

    If I have something break, replacement will not be an issue. The 1911 is quite easy to completely take down for anyone with a modicum of mechanical aptitude. Maybe it is a critical deciding factor for you, but not for everyone.

    No, natural aim cannot be trained out. It is a basic human biophysical characteristic. Can training work to overcome it? Yes, but it must be overcome as it is not natural.

    Regarding another erroneous assumption. You must have had trouble with this: "Your assumption that I have not shot other pistols is erroneous. I settled on the 1911 after a period of time. I did not start there."

    Bless your heart. The last word is yours.
     

    easy rider

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    Everyone is different, in their tastes and their training. One type of pistol that works best for one, may not be the best for another. Not only should speed be considered, but also comfort of shooting and carrying said pistol. I go with what I'm comfortable carrying and shooting, and right now that's my S&W 1911PC.
     

    zackmars

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    So you are admitting that people shoot more accurately with 1911's as the 1911 is "making it that much more easy." Glad we settled that.

    No, natural aim cannot be trained out. It is a basic human biophysical characteristic. Can training work to overcome it? Yes, but it must be overcome as it is not natural.

    Regarding another erroneous assumption. You must have had trouble with this: "Your assumption that I have not shot other pistols is erroneous. I settled on the 1911 after a period of time. I did not start there."

    Bless your heart. The last word is yours.


    I know reading comprehension isn't your thing, but i never once said the 1911 sucks because of its trigger or sight radius. Its just almost everything else

    Yes, natural aim can be trained out. A 1911 feels natural to me, but when I've been shooting glocks, and i present a 1911, i need to adjust to it, build up reps, so that i can get a natural sight picture with that gun. Lets not get into arguing about definitions here.

    I'd bet you settled on 1911's before most of the new designs out on the market now hit shelves. The 509, Vp9 that iwi pistol, etc.

    Have you ever considered not acting like a petulant child? Every time i say something about the 1911, you cry and throw a fit, then hide behind "WulL It WOrKs fEr mE!" Then you chicken out with a passive agressive "well bless your heart"
     

    TexasRedneck

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    I'm always amused by those that want to try and "prove" one gun is superior to another because they see it that way. I carried a wheel gun for a number of years - and was quite accurate with it. Carried everything from Beretta's to H&K - but kept gravitating back to the 1911. For me, it always felt like a more natural choice. You wanna carry a sharp stick and can hit what you aim at, that's cool with me. But when you want to try to justify why I should carry a sharp stick, you can go pack sand.

    Rather than try to pontificate as to why you're knowledge is so far superior to several known expert shooters you've already tried to tell off, why not chill out and just enjoy that we all have our preferences, and that's what makes this sport so much fun?
     
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