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  • popper

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    precedent will be if you point guns at unarmed people, you get arrested
    Pretty much definition of brandishing.
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    benenglish

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    Did the large crowd threaten them in any way?
    I think if someone breaks an iron gate to gain unlawful entry to land I jointly own with my neighbors (the private street), then that comes pretty close to a threat. It also looked to me like some of the protestors were on his lawn and only moved back to the street when the guns came out; a firearm is basic and justifiable equipment to carry when meeting trespassers. Finally, if any of the reported statements of the protestors about taking over the house are true, those definitely count as threats.

    The problem with all this, of course, is that "the crowd", per se, never threatens anybody. Threats are made by individuals, thus making the indiscriminate muzzle-sweeping of everybody in front of the house problematic.
     

    Txhillbilly

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    Supposedly they only took the two weapons they were holding.
    I'm banking on them having more, at least I hope so.

    By the way they were handling those firearms that I saw in the video,I doubt either one of them have ever fired a firearm in their life. Both of them need to go through a firearms safety course,and should go through some form of firearms training before they get their weapon's back.

    I'm totally against them having the weapons confiscated for legally defending their property/lives,but both of them showed just how little they know about handling a firearm,and they did it all in front of the public.

    The Missouri Attorney general needs to bring abusive powers charges against the DA and the Judge that ordered the illegal confiscation of law abiding citizen's 2nd Amendment right to bear arms. They were 100% legal under the Castle Doctrine law in defending their property,even if they don't know how to handle their firearms correctly.
     

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    By the way they were handling those firearms that I saw in the video,I doubt either one of them have ever fired a firearm in their life. Both of them need to go through a firearms safety course,and should go through some form of firearms training before they get their weapon's back.

    I'm totally against them having the weapons confiscated for legally defending their property/lives,but both of them showed just how little they know about handling a firearm,and they did it all in front of the public.

    The Missouri Attorney general needs to bring abusive powers charges against the DA and the Judge that ordered the illegal confiscation of law abiding citizen's 2nd Amendment right to bear arms. They were 100% legal under the Castle Doctrine law in defending their property,even if they don't know how to handle their firearms correctly.

    Totally agree. Last I checked, nothing in the 2nd Amendment says anything about the safe usage of firearms, or some has to have a certain degree of training with firearms.

    And yes, they should get some very basic safety training with those firearms.
     

    Renegade

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    I don't think telling trespassers to "get the F**k off my lawn" would be considered a deadly threat, but a warning if you were holding a firearm while saying it!
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    no but pointing a gun at some one is.

    You point a gun at someone, you risk being legally shot and killed
     

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    no but pointing a gun at some one is.

    You point a gun at someone, you risk being legally shot and killed

    I have to respectfully disagree. If You are standing in my yard, trespassing, it's very likely there may be a gun pointed at you.

    I won't ask someone to leave more than once.
     

    Renegade

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    You have the right to point a gun at someone, especially when they just busted down your gate and are in your yard threatening you.

    you may want contact an attorney for legal advice on that, or you can hire him to defend you after you have been arrested, like these two democratic anti gun assholes. Hope they get convicted!
     

    Renegade

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    I have to respectfully disagree. If You are standing in my yard, trespassing, it's very likely there may be a gun pointed at you.

    I won't ask someone to leave more than once.

    Life is not a Clint Eastwood movie. Like I said above, you may want to get advice on deadly force laws before you get arrested or killed
     

    Axxe55

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    you may want contact an attorney for legal advice on that, or you can hire him to defend you after you have been arrested, like these two democratic anti gun assholes. Hope they get convicted!

    Renegade, some simple questions.

    Under what conditions do you consider pulling a gun on a person reasonable?
    Do you carry a firearm?
    Do you consider someone trespassing, and threatening you, viable reasons to pulling a gun on person?
    If someone was trespassing, on your property, and threatening you with death or bodily harm, what would you do?
     

    Renegade

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    Under what conditions do you consider pulling a gun on a person reasonable?

    Under the conditions outlined in Chapter 9 of the Penal Code.

    Do you consider someone trespassing, and threatening you, viable reasons to pulling a gun on person?

    No

    If someone was trespassing, on your property, and threatening you with death or bodily harm, what would you do?

    911. Trespassing is Class C misdemeanor, threats are just cheap talk I have been hearing since I was 5 yo, not worthy of escalation on my part, I have more important things to do.

    keep in mind, none actually happened to this couple. The threats only can AFTER they pointed guns at the crowd
     
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    Renegade

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    My wife asked me what sort of knucklehead would prosecute those homeowners? She did a little search and came up with someone who looks like Stacy Abrams sister.

    anti gunners that is who.

    gun owners need to always be on guard. Never make it easy for them, pointing guns at unarmed people makes it easy for them.

    but it is your guns, money and liberty at stake, not mine, so if you want to lose them over trespassers, I am ok with that.
     
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