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    F350-6

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    Should come free. Isn't China paying for all of it? In reality, I'm not going to get one. I'll just stay at home and watch what happens!

    You're joking right? The WHO agreed to let China take the lead on the Covid investigation. Their current theory is Covid-19 started in India the summer before it hit Wuhan.

    Letting China be in charge of this is like expecting the US Congress to impose term limits on Congress. They might both pretend to be serious, but they're only in it for their own self interest.
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    Bobk

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    Let's see.......

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    rotor

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    The fun news is starting to trickle out. I've read one of the vaccines, don't remember which one, did their testing like they would have in the old days and didn't account for the ways of life now like keeping track of who wore a mask, or stayed at home, or social distanced, etc.

    Very likely the other tests didn't do that either. That could mean these 90%-95% effective vaccines are only 25% effective and a large number of test subjects had just decided to self isolate.

    I'm not opposed to vaccines, but the doctors, nurses, police, fire, ems, (politicians) etc. will get the first rounds. Seems like a very interesting test batch to roll out on.

    Society would become quite different if we lost a lot of those folks (except for the politicians, we'd be fine if we lost them).
    So you have two groups, one gets the vaccine and one gets placebo. The people don't know which one they get. I think we can assume that since they don't know what they got that both groups would have the same number that lockout, wear a mask, etc. Then you need to wait until a certain number of them get Covid, I think they said 150 people. If 142 of the people got placebo and got Covid and 8 of the vaccine people got Covid they say 95% effective.
    I think you are right about risk for doctors, nurses, etc. Wouldn't be good if they all came down with bad side effects. Politicians, who cares.
    In the real old days they used prisoners for this kind of testing. Nowadays we just let them out.
     

    Mowingmaniac 24/7

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    In the news the various vaccines in the pipeline are all highly touted, but what's not ever mentioned is how few are willing to be first in line...wonder why?
     

    cycleguy2300

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    So you have two groups, one gets the vaccine and one gets placebo. The people don't know which one they get. I think we can assume that since they don't know what they got that both groups would have the same number that lockout, wear a mask, etc. Then you need to wait until a certain number of them get Covid, I think they said 150 people. If 142 of the people got placebo and got Covid and 8 of the vaccine people got Covid they say 95% effective.
    I think you are right about risk for doctors, nurses, etc. Wouldn't be good if they all came down with bad side effects. Politicians, who cares.
    In the real old days they used prisoners for this kind of testing. Nowadays we just let them out.
    I dont think thats quite how they do these type of tests. Because there wouldn't be a way to know people didnt get sick becaise the vaccine worked or if they simply were not exposed. Generally, they will test for an immune response i.e. the production of antibodies in sufficient quantities to afford protection, some time after the administration of the vaccine.

    I could be wrong here...

    I am not opposed to taking the vaccine. Not much of it should be anything new other than the target. Still haven't filled out the paperwork so I can be in the first wave yet... still on the fence a bit.

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    I have never taken the flu vaccine and only had the flu once in decades.

    I may have already had the virus, seeing how the majority of people have mild to no symptoms. I don't fear this virus. I am not vulnerable, neither is my family.

    I will probably pass on the vaccine.
     

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    Rushed to market "vaccine" for a flu with a 99% survival rating. No thanks

    While this is very true as far as survival rate the only issue I've seen throughout this entire pandemic is when all these numbers rise (daily positive test) we start to see the hospitals beds filling up. I just wonder if we keep on this same trajectory how many more hospitalizations are we going to see? Reports are medical workers are stretched to the max. I can tell you from a 1st hand perspective it's affecting care for other issues. My sister and I are helping our mother who is in bad health with multiple issues and we're having issues getting her the care she needs due to all the attention of the medical field on treating covid while they try to keep covid away from those who are vulnerable.

    Just the sheer overload on our medical system is my concern, not the mortality rate.
     

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    While this is very true as far as survival rate the only issue I've seen throughout this entire pandemic is when all these numbers rise (daily positive test) we start to see the hospitals beds filling up. I just wonder if we keep on this same trajectory how many more hospitalizations are we going to see? Reports are medical workers are stretched to the max. I can tell you from a 1st hand perspective it's affecting care for other issues. My sister and I are helping our mother who is in bad health with multiple issues and we're having issues getting her the care she needs due to all the attention of the medical field on treating covid while they try to keep covid away from those who are vulnerable.

    Just the sheer overload on our medical system is my concern, not the mortality rate.

    Blame it on the news and sensationalism. This is an overblown flu. My wife is a nurse at a hospital. The amount of people coming in because they thought they were going to die but end up staying for a day and getting sent home is crazy
     

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    Blame it on the news and sensationalism. This is an overblown flu. My wife is a nurse at a hospital. The amount of people coming in because they thought they were going to die but end up staying for a day and getting sent home is crazy
    That's good to know
     
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    I don't know about when they are all available. But for now, I will take the first one they call me to come get.
     

    Mowingmaniac 24/7

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    I don't believe any of the numbers put out there that plague patients are supposedly over running hospitals.

    We are being lied to by the msm because the overblown plague patient numbers are just another tool for them to help their leftist overlord/politicians to control the population.

    I do remember "Field Hospitals' were set up in Houston for an overrun of plague patients that were never used and were ultimately dismantled.

    Recall the hospital ship that went to nyc and not one patient went aboard?

    There are stories of similar events where extraordinary efforts were made to accommodate plague patient overrun in various locales where it never occurred?

    But, some of the gullible still buy the numbers being touted by the lying msm.

    Yeah sure, I have confidence in the vaccines soon to be offered..!

    Pppppppfffff!!!!!

    And your check is in the mail too...or not.
     

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    I don't believe any of the numbers put out there that plague patients are supposedly over running hospitals.

    We are being lied to by the msm because the overblown plague patient numbers are just another tool for them to help their leftist overlord/politicians to control the population.

    I do remember "Field Hospitals' were set up in Houston for an overrun of plague patients that were never used and were ultimately dismantled.

    Recall the hospital ship that went to nyc and not one patient went aboard?

    There are stories of similar events where extraordinary efforts were made to accommodate plague patient overrun in various locales where it never occurred?

    But, some of the gullible still buy the numbers being touted by the lying msm.

    Yeah sure, I have confidence in the vaccines soon to be offered..!

    Pppppppfffff!!!!!

    And your check is in the mail too...or not.
    And there really are plenty of primers.
     
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