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    The 2013 GRPC, co-sponsored by the Second Amendment Foundation and the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms, kicked off in Houston this evening with an evening reception.

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    Basically, tonite was just a social function.

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    However, don't let that bar in the back fool you into thinking you could actually get a premium cocktail when you paid $10 for a "premium cocktail" ticket. I took mine to the bar and asked for a sidecar. The response I got, as clear as I can quote it, was "Huh? What's that?" I gave my ticket away.

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    Thankfully, the opening remarks lasted all of 30 seconds.

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    Then Alan Gottlieb got up and took a whole 5 seconds to introduce Shara Fryer, a long-time local "name". God bless her media-savvy little heart, she was able to give a 30 second speech and still manage to shove in two commercial endorsements and a plug for her own career. ;)

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    Many thanks to Genie and Stan Jennings of Maine, long-time activists and supporters of this conference, for making me feel extra-welcome in my own town.

    The real work starts tomorrow and I'll try to have many more (and more useful) pictures as the conference progresses.
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    One of the few re pubs from HA is speaking, Talked about being involved in pro gun rights candidates election campaigns.
     

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    Make that HI.

    Frank from NJ speaking about NJ carry permits. Mentioned Akin, sentenced to 7 yrs for unlicensed carry while moving from NJ to CO. Discussed how desperate they are to enact new laws,
     

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    Florida as a laboratory for gun right laws. I.e. Stand your ground laws. Discussing efforts to roll back stand your ground laws in the legislature. Defensive v offensive legislative posture. Pre-filing pro self defense and pro 2nd amendment bills. Legislator. "when it comes to SYG law we are not going to change one comma". They will change self defense laws to push back activist judges who are convicting people of aggravated assault when they brandish firearm in self defense and do not use it. Call to support state organizations. We, the people give the NRA and TSRA to power to talk to the legislatures
     

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    Jim Irvine, OH. Buckeye firearms owners. Passed 3 pro gun bills in OH. Proposed bills in OH: Accept dd214s as training for chl in OH. Open carry not disorderly conduct etc. talked about trained 24 teachers out of 1500 teachers that wanted to be trained to carry firearms in schools. More classes scheduled In OH. They are doing something. This ties in with Texas HB 1009 that allows teachers to carry in Texas schools. Compared bloomberg to hitters nazi party, they looked for people they could co-opt or knock off.
     

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    Maj gen Allen is discussing the UN gun ban treaty. Russia, China refused to sign. ISAACS is a problem as is the new treaty. The amendment process will allow everything we didn't want in the treaty will be in when the treaty amendment process starts. The senate. . . We can lose the fight by losing credibility with the senate on both a organizational basis and an individual basis with your senators. Read the treaty understand the testy text and be accurate in your statements. The facts must be right. Read it for yourself. Fight with the truth. This will be a generational challenge. Someone with credibility must stand up and ask every senator running for office is asked how they will vote on the UN treaty.
     

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    Mass ayoob. On SYG. Simple principal. Law abiding citizen attacked unlawfully need not retreat, common law in England to combat dueling forced retreat. Some states, followed the law "the retreat states". Retreat was supposed to be able to be made in complete safety. However the controversy came from the 776 series in the FL statutes. Buy it covered 3-4 concepts, SYG, also reinforced castle doctrine (made it statutory). Case law, jury instructions. FL led the way making the common law principle of castle doctrine into statutory law. I.e. Presumption of danger upon forced entry. Also, police arrest powers limited in self defense case. Brady bunch twisted the law and misrepresented it in their anti SYG campaign.
     

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    Chris burg, author of "thank god I had a gun". re gun laws in Bermuda. Police chief seized all handguns from military base and moved them to police station. However, Bloomberg is allowed to bring armed security to his home in Bermuda. Hypocrite. On SYG.
     

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    Alan Gura. Terminated IL carry ban. Moved to shall issue system Chicago permit gone, Chicago registration gone. NC victory, ezell v Chicago, gun range ban, still attacking their gun range permit scheme. Many courts do not take 2nd as seriously as they should. They do not see it as a full right such as the 1st amendment. Govt wins because courts defer to govt and police. Courts took from heller don't call it rational basis, just rename it intermediate scrutiny. Last year, lost in 2nd circuit. They said 2nd not as important as other amendments. SC denied cert. even though they used wrong standard. Pattern of resistance to heller and McDonald. This may force SC to address these issues. SC pays greater attention if govt lost. 3 cases pending cert. re intermediate scrutiny. Schrader, McDonald. Schradwr challenges VaWA. Also NRA v BATFE from Texas. 5th circuit upheld ban on handgun sales to 18-20 y/o. Used intermediate scrutiny. They will ALS challenge NYCs 340 fee to possess handgun. Only one needs. To make it to the SC to defeat intermediate scrutiny. The upcoming term may rival the heller term as the most consequential for 2nd amendment rights
     

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    Tom Gresham. Take the long view, recognizing a win, target identification


    Losses are harder to recognize. Win battles lose public opinion, if you lose PO you loses all. Lose PO can lose all rights. I.e. eBay and PayPal refusing to do busie as with us. This is a major PO loss. Major chains put up no gun signs . . Major PO or PR loss.


    Win. Newspaper, story re gun club cancer fund raising , local kid needs medical care and gun club raises funds. We must be better communicators, also get credit for it. Public wants to identify with those who do good things. You don't frighten them. Show that you are one of them. If they are scared, they do not identify and you loose the, insert Starbucks reference. We lost on the PO PR standpoint. Look to Alan Koran on how to use words as our weapons. The Brady bunch is great at using words, I.e. Saturday night special, cop killer bullets. We are stupid for using their words. Take back the lexicon. gunlaws.com / Bloomfield Press. Use his glossary. Do not use the Brady bunch terms ever. Be aware of how your words are being received. I.e. Standard capacity magazine.


    Target identification. Why do we keep targeting our friends? Why are we alienating groups I.e. Democrats, this group, that group, the gays, the ALCU etc. we should stop alienating these groups and bring them into the fold. Make them welcome. Remember, we are not assured of winning, we can snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. The worst time to introduce yourself to the city counsel and politicians is when you need help. Attend meetings on a regular basis, develop the relationships. It's a long road, choose targets wisely, understand what a win looks like and know where we are headed. Our opponents never give up . . Neither do we!
     

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    Mark Serbu. Was contacted by New York police department for a 50cal sniper rifle. He said no, he would not sell a rifle that the citizens of New York could not purchase. This has real bite because only two manufacturers make a semi auto 50 and neither will sell to them. Way to go mark!
     

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    David hardy. Of Arms and the Law blog. Court standards of review.

    Intermediate scrutiny. Means different things to different circuits. 7th circuit. It means a lot. Others, it means they ct defers to the gov.

    The he two clauses of the 2nd are not the same idea. They are two separate ideas.
     

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    Don Kilmer. Longest running gun case in 9th circuit. 13 years of litigation re banning guns at gun shows on county property. County agreed guns not a threat if they are tethered. Countries latest gambit, you may have guns, but no ammunition. Now ct. Specifically referred to the statuette that felt with ammo and guns. So they are going back to 9th circuit. So, to get around this silly ban, they said they would let gun show customer pay for ammo at the show and then pick up off county property near the show, thus upset the county.

    pending. Bullet button case. Is in federal courts. Had a series of false arrests re bullet button in CA

    Churchill, v Harris. Settled re LE gun confiscation, innocent owner had to prove that they own the guns. CA evid code possession is title, San Fran said thy didn't have to follow the law. Settled for atty fees and change in policy
     

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    New York gun rights attorney. Challenging the safe act.

    Why bring narrow focus claims?

    1. When you sue the gift and you say laws are unconstitutional, they do not rol over. The AG office will assign minimum 2-6 attorneys. They will come up with a slew of creative reasons as to why the law is const.

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    fed ct must let state court resolve issue
    itsabout concealed carry and under heler, CC ban is valid

    we must rebut each and every argument

    this takes lots of time and effort to respond to each and every issue or defense raised by the gov.

    2. Facts. Hung up on factual issues. Documents, testimony avoid this by narrowing issues in case.

    3. Risk of adverse rulings. Intrinsic risk, an expected aspect of the case.

    Short term, trying to respond to and address the adverse ruling. Throwing unnecessary issues into case gives ct reason to hang its hat on an adverse ruling

    Long term. Defeats may not be defeats. The goal is to get the SC to rule and it only does that If there is a split in the courts of appeals circuit.

    4. It's easier to win an incremental case. Her and McDonald. The actual injury was a very narrow injury.

    Ifdyiu are outing. Together 2nd litigation, need to think of it as a challenge to make the case narrowly focused as possible
     

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    Dan schmuter. NJ gun rights attorney. NJ requires a showing of special dangers I.e. Justifiable need. Ct can't even rule around this standard because it is codified. The ct appeals made a specific finding re heller. . . . The language of Hellers opinion limited the scope to the home. This is a misquote e. This subverts the heller opinion. Confused the application of the heller opinion to further these courts anti 2nd agendas. Heller. 2nd is a fundamental right of self defense. Heller is not limited to handgun in a home. When these courts do this, it makes it easier for other courts to subvert heller. Must highlight the issue of fundamental right of self defense v. Right of self defense in the home. Heller as a narrow (home only) v. Wide opinion.
     
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