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  • Dawico

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    So it is 300fps or so faster than the 6.5x284 that is known as a barrel burner?

    If it doesn't burn up barrels then maybe there is something there.

    The name does have a nice ring to it though.
     

    1slow01Z71

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    Meh. Going to be a barrel burning machine 85 grains of powder going through a 6.5mm hole, Id be real surprised if it makes it past 1000 rounds before it needs a new barrel. Some 300WM with hot loads are doing good to get past that mark. Factory loads are reported to be 129s at 3400. For someone who would only shoot this gun for hunting it may not be a bad option but other than that I cant think of a use for it. For what its worth George Gardner said the guys at the nosler booth wouldn't answer barrel life and people were guessing around 800.

    Id much rather have the 6.5 SAUM. Pushes 140s to 3200 or 130s to 3300 with ease using low 60s worth of powder and barrel life of well over 3K with a chamber set back all while getting at least 10 loads on brass.
     

    benenglish

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    More powder behind a smaller bullet. How many times have we seen people go down the road of diminishing returns? I was fascinated some time back by the .22/.300WSM. Yeah, it's exactly what it sounds like. It spins .22 bullets so fast they often explode in mid-flight. With solid copper (or whatever alloy) bullets of light weight, it will break 5000fps. With heavier .22 bullets like the 70-grain Barnes TSX, it still runs around 4000fps. At that speed, it reputedly kills deer instantly - liquefying everything inside while the animal drops straight to the ground.

    And it burns out barrels in about 300 rounds.

    Sorry. Pushing lots of powder down small bores has lost any fascination for me. I like big, fat thumpers that never seem to wear out barrels. Call me old fashioned; I don't mind.
     

    benenglish

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    300 rounds? How do you even tweak in a load and have enough left to actually go out and shoot?
    That's the point. You narrow things down to just one or two bullets and one or two powders. You fire every shot, even the barrel break-ins, over a chrono so that every shot contributes to development. You reload at the range so that you can make changes after 3 shots. With that kind of extremely efficient load development, you can settle on a load or 2 in 100 to 150 rounds. Then you load up 100 more to go hunting with, which should last most people a decade.

    Rifles like this are not things you take to the range to have fun plinking on a Saturday afternoon.

    And then there are benchrest shooters who buy 20 or 40 barrels in the off-season, test them until they narrow their selection down to the best 5 or 6, and only shoot those in high-level competition because they are considered to lose their gilt-edge accuracy after 1000 rounds.

    Playing with rifles at the extreme outsides of the shooting envelope is loony business.
     

    1slow01Z71

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    What comps allow a gun that shoots that fast? Most I know of are limited to 3200 or have guns that cant make it faster than that anyway. I couldn't deal with a gun like that. I like to shoot way too much and its hard to learn how a gun shoots if you never get it shoot it.
     

    benenglish

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    What comps allow a gun that shoots that fast?
    Are you talking about that 5000fps .22/.300WSM? That's not a competition gun. It's purely a hunting rifle.

    I like to shoot way too much and its hard to learn how a gun shoots if you never get it shoot it.
    For many hunters, an entire season is 3 shots to verify zero then 1 or 2 to get their deer. After that, the rifle goes back into the closet till next year.
     
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