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  • stdreb27

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    So recently I went to the tax assessors office to discuss some stuff. They'd put up this sign since last year...
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    So, in my extra time I figured I'd stir the pot a bit.

    Besides emailing the elected tax assessor, and each taxing district, the sherif, and the Texas da, who else can I harass?
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    Byrd666

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    Is than active or open court in that building?

    Reason I ask, is due to having gone through a similar situation at the Midland County Assessors office myself. Though at that office no sign was posted. There just happened to be a Ranger and a Sheriff's Deputy walking by just before I entered and something just made me ask if I was "safe". A "no" was said by both in unison. The reason was an open/active court in the building was what they told me.
     

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    Is than active or open court in that building?

    Reason I ask, is due to having gone through a similar situation at the Midland County Assessors office myself. Though at that office no sign was posted. There just happened to be a Ranger and a Sheriff's Deputy walking by just before I entered and something just made me ask if I was "safe". A "no" was said by both in unison. The reason was an open/active court in the building was what they told me.

    Nope. The courthouse is across town.
     

    Byrd666

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    The same true in Midland as well. But, there was a courtroom in the building. I asked a security guy about it, and sure enough, there it was. It was around the corner, out of sight, and unmarked until you walked right up to it.
     

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    I've run down this road before. Trust me- they're not going to do anything because there's no punishment for having the sign up and no one wants to be the one who has to take responsibility for scraping off the letters and letting in all the dangerous law-abiding gun owners.
     

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    Wait! So, if county bureaucrats want to legitimize their 30.06 sign, all they need do is designate a room in the bldg. as a courtroom. Not necessary to actually have court. Heck the janitor could use it for his storage facility.
     

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    They may very well have an administrative law judge (or something like that) that comes to that "court" periodically who then rules on appeals of assessment/tax issues or even is the final arbiter of an issue decided by an appeals board that the plaintiff still disagrees with.
     

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    So recently I went to the tax assessors office to discuss some stuff. They'd put up this sign since last year...
    6a7ejasu.jpg


    So, in my extra time I figured I'd stir the pot a bit.

    Besides emailing the elected tax assessor, and each taxing district, the sherif, and the Texas da, who else can I harass?

    There is no Texas DA. Do you mean the Nueces County DA?

    The Commissioners Court would be an appropriate group to address.
     

    Mreed911

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    Is than active or open court in that building?... The reason was an open/active court in the building was what they told me.

    Nope. The courthouse is across town.

    The same true in Midland as well. But, there was a courtroom in the building. I asked a security guy about it, and sure enough, there it was. It was around the corner, out of sight, and unmarked until you walked right up to it.

    Wait! So, if county bureaucrats want to legitimize their 30.06 sign, all they need do is designate a room in the bldg. as a courtroom. Not necessary to actually have court. Heck the janitor could use it for his storage facility.

    Don't know about that but, the room I walked into WAS an actual courtroom.

    They may very well have an administrative law judge (or something like that) that comes to that "court" periodically who then rules on appeals of assessment/tax issues or even is the final arbiter of an issue decided by an appeals board that the plaintiff still disagrees with.

    Negative. Court offices have NOTHING to do with 30.06 postings. NOTHING.
     

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    Negative. Court offices have NOTHING to do with 30.06 postings. NOTHING.

    I have seen other government buildings with courts where one would not normally expect a court post 30.06 signs. Even though a violation would be prosecuted under penal code 46.03, I think they post the signs as a warning about the court.
     

    Mreed911

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    I have seen other government buildings with courts where one would not normally expect a court post 30.06 signs. Even though a violation would be prosecuted under penal code 46.03, I think they post the signs as a warning about the court.

    So how does one differentiate between simply improperly posted signage vs. improperly posted signage that indicates the presence of a court?
     

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    I'm going to be going there soon. I just printed off pics to back up my case and points. In reviewing the letter they sent in the appraisal it states there is an appraisal review board that meets in May till about July 20. Does this board qualify as being able to legally post 30.06 in regards to their "meetings"?
     

    karlac

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    So how does one differentiate between simply improperly posted signage vs. improperly posted signage that indicates the presence of a court?

    <rant> The mere act of you asking that particular question (questions naturally being asked whenever there is confusion regarding an issue) goes straight to the root of the problem, IMO.


    There is little doubt in my mind, at least in this neck of the woods, that the tactics behind posting these "unlawful" signs is not necessarily because the powers-that-be do so in ignorance, but, in fact, do so to sow confusion.


    Those who pointedly study human behavior for political gain, which the liberals have turned into an art form (re: Alinsky, et al), become adept at using confusion as part of their strategy. Add that to the fact that they can do so on this issue with impunity, and without penalty, makes it a cheap device, and with built-in plausible deniability. It is a fact that these signs are targeted to a specific group, the CHL holder, and any confusion on your part about that sign is arguably to their gain.


    The fact that a bill that would have imposed a penalty for posting these "unlawful" signs, IIRC, was introduced (but unfortunately defeated) in the last legislative session, adds further weight to that line of reasoning.


    Unfortunately, that you must have a government issued permit to exercise a Constitutional right means a CHL holder's best defense is not solely in his edc, but also in his ability to stay informed.


    That said, it would be interesting to see an "exit poll" of sorts on the number of folks visiting a government building who actually see any sign posted, much less take the time to read them. We already know who does.
     
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