30 Remington AR (aka “30 RAR”)

Discussion in 'Rifles' started by ConnRadd, Sep 21, 2009.

  1. ConnRadd

    ConnRadd Active Member

    I wonder if this would ever take off... Seems like there's a market, hog and deer hunters, for the lighter weight AR (AR-15) that will have enough knock down power that's closer to a .308. I know the 6.8 seems to be the answer and people have had good luck with it. But, having something closer to a .308 would make some feel better... Sorry if this a repost, but it's good read.

    Remington Introduces new 30 Remington AR Cartridge AccurateShooter.com Bulletin

  2. Texas1911

    Texas1911 TGT Addict

    May 29, 2017
    Austin, TX
    Won't live long ... we already have an entire slew of capable "big game" hunting rounds. The 6.8 SPC, .50 Beowulf, .458 SOCOM, .450 Bushmaster, .308 / 7.62 NATO (AR10), 6.5 Grendel, 7.62x39, etc.

    The AR does not need yet another caliber. Remington is wasting their time.
  3. Texas1911

    Texas1911 TGT Addict

    May 29, 2017
    Austin, TX
    The military hasn't shown much in the way of changing it's caliber, and with budget cuts looming, I doubt they will be doing anything in the future. They seem to like all of their squad weapons to operate on the same caliber, and getting FN to change the M249 over to the larger round probably won't go over well since they sell to other military units as well.

    The energy tables just show the impact energy. Unfortunately it needs to have grain weight (inertia) to be effective on heavier game. In that category it's about 80 grains short on a good .308 big game round. It'd be effective, you'd just have to be close to maintain velocity deduced energy and accuracy.
  4. M. Sage

    M. Sage TGT Addict

    Jan 21, 2009
    San Antonio
    125 grain @ 2800 FPS? This is "close" to .308 like the .300 Savage was "close" to .30-'06. :p A .308 should be pushing something 170 grains or more at that kind of velocity.

    This is actually only marginally better than 7.62x39mm (123 grains @ around 2300-2400 FPS). I'm hereafter going to call the cartridge formerly known as .30 RAR 7.62x39mm +p

    Then again, I suppose it's fun to see ammo manufacturers reinvent the wheel every week.

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