300 BLK $1350: Is this a good deal?

[35Remington]

I saw this elsewhere online and I've always wanted to get into 300 BLK. Interested in thoughts from those who have experience here.

Ad:
Noveske 300 blackout with 10.5" barrel, perm attached 6" flash hider
Free float barrel
4 rail hand guard
Flat top
Forward assist
Includes ch/Bcg
NRA lower
Under 200 rds thru it
400 rds of ammo
These uppers are 1250 when you can find them not counting ammo n lower
98% condition
Asking $ 1350 plus shipping

 

[TreyG-20]

Sounds like a good deal to me. Factory ammo is about to $2 a round right now.

 

[Charlie]

I'll say up front that I really don't know all the values of the components listed but it's my understanding that to simply change from .223 to 300 BLK requires only a barrel change and gas tune up. It's just gonna' depend on what you want on/in your AR.

 

[Dawico]

I thought the point of the 300BLK was to suppress it. The round is somewhat anemic for a .30 caliber if you aren't going to suppress. A permanent flash hider makes no sense to me on these rifles.

Just my thoughts. As far as price I have no clue there.

 

[kusai]

I have a 300 blk sbr sitting for a year now. And snag it while you can, the noveske uppers are harder to find itself.

Sent from the black hole

 

[Charlie]

I Jane a 300 blk sbr sitting for a year now. And snag it while you can, the noveske uppers are garters to find itself

Sent from the black hole

Huh? Translate please.

 

[35Remington]

Rifle is now $1200 shipped. Trying to decide if the permanently attached flash hider is a deal breaker. I would like to suppress a .300 BLK, although that will likely happen far into the future.

 

[1slow01Z71]

Just remember if you want to suppress it later it will cost at least 100 bucks to get that flash hider chopped off then the barrel rethreaded and crowned. Id pass, seems like ok components with a nice barrel. I believe that's the guy on AR15.com that was all excited about his new gun only a couple weeks ago and is now wanting to sell it. Personally I think the giant flash hiders are tacky looking. If I were you Id just wait and buy components when theyre on sale and build you a nice 300blk. If you don't reload, right now is not the time to get into 300blk.

 

[Dredge]

1Slow hit the nail on the head.
The permanently attached flash hider is a no go. What you may gain in a good deal is eliminated by the pinned/welded flash hider.

 

[itchin]

That's a great deal for $1200. Just replace the barrel.

 

[35Remington]

Thanks boys, I'll pass. 1slow, was hoping you'd stop by. Here's the thread if anyone actually wants to buy it.

http://www.marlinowners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=126602

 

[smittyb]

I thought the point of the 300BLK was to suppress it. The round is somewhat anemic for a .30 caliber if you aren't going to suppress. A permanent flash hider makes no sense to me on these rifles.

Just my thoughts. As far as price I have no clue there.

Exactly. It was called 300 WHISPER for a reason. As a supersonic .30 cal, it's a Pretty shit design.
It does go to show you what effective marketing can do, though.

 

[winchster]

Exactly. It was called 300 WHISPER for a reason. As a supersonic .30 cal, it's a Pretty shit design.
It does go to show you what effective marketing can do, though.

So, I suppose you think both the 30-30 winchester and the ak 47 shoot "shit design"(sic) as well?

 

[1slow01Z71]

Exactly. It was called 300 WHISPER for a reason. As a supersonic .30 cal, it's a Pretty shit design.
It does go to show you what effective marketing can do, though.

Numerous dead animals all across the country beg to differ. Its amazing what SAAMI'ing a good cartridge will do to its popularity. Ive never seen any big marketing push for this cartridge, just a versatile round that works just fine and with some NFA stamps can do some really cool stuff.

 

[Das Jared]

Travis Haley was banging targets out to 800yds with the 300blk. I wouldn't call it shit.

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[smittyb]

So just because a cartridge can kill animals, it's a good design? That's really the standard?
Note that I said as a supersonic .30 cal. As a .30 cal that uses a standard AR-15 bolt, it's not bad, although probably not as good as a 7.62x40 WT.
I have seen model 700's chambered in 300 BLK. Do we really think that as a SUPERSONIC Round, the 300 BLK is the best we can do in a 700?
As far as a marketing push, I may have chose the wrong words. Let me give you an example, though. I am a fan of the 6.5 Grendel. Since it has gained SAAMI certification, how many articles have you seen on it in mainstream gun rags? Not shotgun news or varmint hunter, I'm talking G&A, Shooting Times, American Rifleman and the like? Now how about the 300 BLK? Yeah, a whole heck of a lot more.

 

[RACER X]

Travis Haley was banging targets out to 800yds with the 300blk. I wouldn't call it shit.

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W a freaking red dot no less.....bows down

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[40Arpent]

So just because a cartridge can kill animals, it's a good design? That's really the standard?

In supersonic, it performs about as well as a 30-30 or 7.62x39 (as Winchster implied), so given it's subsonic attributes, it's decent supersonic performance is a bonus.

I have seen model 700's chambered in 300 BLK. Do we really think that as a SUPERSONIC Round, the 300 BLK is the best we can do in a 700?

Why does it HAVE to be the "best we can do" in a 700? Most of the 300BLK 700's I have seen have threaded barrels. Subsonic 300BLK from a suppressed bolt gun = very quiet hog rifle. Sounds pretty damn appealing to me.

 

[smittyb]

In supersonic, it performs about as well as a 30-30 or 7.62x39 (as Winchster implied), so given it's subsonic attributes, it's decent supersonic performance is a bonus.



Why does it HAVE to be the "best we can do" in a 700? Most of the 300BLK 700's I have seen have threaded barrels. Subsonic 300BLK from a suppressed bolt gun = very quiet hog rifle. Sounds pretty damn appealing to me.

So you are saying its a great for suppressing, and performs as well Supersonic as a round developed in 1895.
Yeah, sounds like a winner.

 

[1slow01Z71]

So just because a cartridge can kill animals, it's a good design? That's really the standard?
Note that I said as a supersonic .30 cal. As a .30 cal that uses a standard AR-15 bolt, it's not bad, although probably not as good as a 7.62x40 WT.
I have seen model 700's chambered in 300 BLK. Do we really think that as a SUPERSONIC Round, the 300 BLK is the best we can do in a 700?
As far as a marketing push, I may have chose the wrong words. Let me give you an example, though. I am a fan of the 6.5 Grendel. Since it has gained SAAMI certification, how many articles have you seen on it in mainstream gun rags? Not shotgun news or varmint hunter, I'm talking G&A, Shooting Times, American Rifleman and the like? Now how about the 300 BLK? Yeah, a whole heck of a lot more.

I bet its covered by the gun rags more because its a more popular caliber and I bet its really popular because its a terrible cartridge. Yep makes perfect sense. Get off the internet and out in the real world. It does just fine with supers, my 125 sierra load is accurate enough and packs enough wallop at 500 yds to demolish an 8" limestone rock with me leaning up against a tree for support. It works just fine, sure theres better super calibers but it gets the job done and when hogs come out to my feeder I can throw a mag of subs in and clear my feeder pen without having to worry about scaring off the deer that may be headed to my feeder. Plus subs are just fun to play with. Its not for everyone, just like a 50bmg isnt.

The main point I make to people who piss on the 300blk super performance is its almost identical to 7.62x39 which is the most widely used cartridge in the world so apparently it gets the job done just fine.