.45 self defense ammo

[Amistad]

I recently obtained some Winchester Ranger RA45T rounds. I am not in law enforcement, nor is anyone in my family. A friend of mine told me that it is illegal for a civilian to possess this type of ammo and that if I ever shot someone with such LEO ammo, I would be in big trouble. Is this true? Thanks!

Amistad

 

[boycan]

I don't think so, my son in law tries to get me to buy it all the time and he is cop. There is also a pawn shop close to me that has several boxes I been eyebawlin! LOL

 

[jvanwink]

45 Self Defense Ammo

You can own it. Ammunitiontogo.com has info about the Ranger ammo. I am pretty sure it was Winchester's rule and not the Governments.

 

[Texas42]

It isn't illegal, as long as it isn't "armor Peircing" handgun ammo.

I'm 99.9% sure that rangers aren't.

The thing is that the ammo companies usually don't market particular ammo series to non-LEO's.

Don't know why, just trying to avoid flak from the anti-gun people I guess.

You can usually get the ammo from online, though a bit hit-or-miss cause supply isn't steady.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[crazy_taco]

Ranger ammo is perfectly legal to own by civilians. It's just marketed toward LEO. Some places require police/military/Government ID to buy it, but that's purely store policy. It is NOT "armor piercing". Not many hollow points are...

 

[BurkGlocker]

Winchester Rangers are perfectly legal to own as a civilian and as others have said are marketed towards to the LEO community. Some web sites such as Streichers have restricted the sales of Rangers to LE only and have made it a little more difficult to obtain for civilians. Now, if you were to possibly shoot someone in SD using said products it is possible that some lawyers may make the ramifications a little harder to deal with than if you used ammunition marketed for civilian use...

 

[dbgun]

It's not illegal. It's just expensive.

 

[wtchdr4011]

It's not illegal. It's just expensive.

$24.99/50 for Ranger T is expensive?

 

[dbgun]

$24.99/50 for Ranger T is expensive?

Sorry about that. I always hear the Ranger T ammo as being the same as Black Talon, which seems (was thinking of Black Talon) pretty expensive to me.

 

[wtchdr4011]

Sorry about that. I always hear the Ranger T ammo as being the same as Black Talon, which seems (was thinking of Black Talon) pretty expensive to me.

Isn't the current production Ranger T a 4th or 5th gen Black Talon less the black. The Ranger T I have recovered sure open up like a Black Talon.

 

[dbgun]

Isn't the current production Ranger T a 4th or 5th gen Black Talon less the black.

That's how I understand it. I heard it from one of the dealers at a gun show quite a while ago.

 

[BurkGlocker]

When comparing the old Black Talons against the newer T-Series the talons on the the BTs are quite shorter than the ones on the T-Series, but in retrospect, the BTs talons are alot sharper than the newer Ranger's.

This page has a pic of the old BTs...
[URL="http://www.tds-us.com/catalog.php/tds/dt44310/Ranger_Talon_LEO"][url]http://www.tds-us.com/catalog.php/tds/dt44310/Ranger_Talon_LEO[/URL][/URL]

And here are some personal pics of mine of the newer T-Series...

The +P .45 ACP loadings have expanded to over 1.130" in diameter measured over the talons... Very nasty buggers...

 

[SIG_Fiend]

It is not illegal. The RA45T is also one of the better and more consistent JHP's out there as well.

 

[Sidewayz]

I have Ranger RA45TP that looks exactly like BurkGlockers photos. It was fired from my XD at 3 one gallon water jugs lined up. The Ranger litterally exploded the 1st two jugs to pieces then lodged itself in the exit side of the 3rd jug.

It performs equally well from my new Glock 36 also. And is my #1 carry ammo choice.

 

[Amistad]

Thank you for each and every reply. I have my PX4 loaded up with these rounds, ready to come to my defense if a desperate situation were to be forced upon me.

Amistad