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  • Younggun

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    ABC just did a little segment talking about those smart Hollywood people supporting Obamacare and Obama pushing how half the people who sign up can get "quality healthcare for under $50".


    Then they dropped the bomb. $50 bronze plan come with a $5000 deductible! It covers nothing until that deductible is met. So what insurance is used for 99%of the time will NOT be covered and will most likely never add up to the deductible.


    The only ones who could possible get anything out of this will be a very small percentage who have a major accident and those with very expensive pre-existing conditions.

    Now lets look at the penalty. 1% of your income. You have a choice to pay $600 a year for insurance which will most likely pay nothing back to you or pay what will most likely be much less than that as a penalty unless you make more than $60,000 a year.

    Considering that $50 plan is for a single person and looks likes its being lined towards you get people and those with low income the penalty would most likely be more like $200/year.


    Now lets get to the sad part. There is a scary number of people who have no idea what all the numbers on an insurance plan mean.

    They pushed the exact same plan at work (cheaper though IIRC) and I had a long discussion about it with the BCBS rep because she was very misleading about what the plan provided and very reluctant to admit what it did not. I assume she thought we would be an easy sell and many would have been. I told her how I felt about that and after taking the "new" gold plan (actually, it was the old silver plan) I went back with the packet and explained to the other guys waiting just what the plan was and what it was not. Most said they got the same pitch and thanked me for letting them know.

    I went off on that story because it is the same thing they are doing with this Obamacare plan. They are building it up as "quality health coverage" to a younger generation who will probably not know what they are buying or how little coverage it really is until they get sick and the doctors office asks for cash. That is the only way they will get enough people to sign up for these plans to keep the system alive. If they for sign up the system will defund itself because it will take an enormous pool of pay-ins who can not get anything out in order to cover the cost of allowing those with expensive Pre-existing conditions to sign up at a guaranteed loss.

    If the young generation does hold out and I can only imagine the scrambling the libs will do in an effort to secure enough funding to prop up this debacle.
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    The whole thing is a disaster in progress. Most, if not all, insurance is way too complicated for the average person. Now on top of that, they are having it SHOVED down their throats with no way to get reliable, expedient and in reality, affordable health care without being persecuted, prosecuted, and in my opinion unfairly taxed. Whatever happened to a government of the people, by the people, and FOR THE PEOPLE? Washington D.C. is slicing it's own throat with plan.
     

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    The next few years before 2016 are going to be hilarious as the facts of ObamaCare come out and Joe Sixpack finds out how much it is going to cost him. I can't wait to rub it in.
     

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    I'm pretty sure that you have to be under a certain age (30? 35?) to even qualify to use that plan without getting hit with the fine that's called a tax so that you don't get your day in court.

    All just part of Obamacare's planned failure so the Libs can institute a single payer system.

    Yep. This new system was designed to fail from the ground up.
     

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    As much as it has cost them allready, wouldn't count on it


    from a non-recovering coffeeholic

    All the previous expenses were Bush's fault:p


    Seriously, I know a more than a few O supporters who are waking up. The real question will be if they realize it's the liberal mindset causing the problems, or will they just be mad at Obama for lying to them and vote for someone else with the exact same agenda.
     

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    Obama care is not about health but control/power of a big part of our economy not to mention personal data to know every aspect of your life, the true believers of Obama care should take note no one in DC wants the service. It is a disaster brought to you and me by radicals/communist/socialist. American voters need to wake up fast not much time remaining.
     

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    Aside from all that, I wanted to make the point that if you know someone considering one of these plans MAKE SURE they know what they are buying.

    Leave the politics out an just explain to them what the numbers mean so they can at least know what they aren't getting.
     

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    If you think about the all pervasive government how do you increase the size is find a way to make the 48% of the people not paying taxes to pay a tax. Just think that 48% that are not paying anything will now have to pay something into the government for healthcare even with the subsidies. It also puts them on the tax role for future political entitlements.
     

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    The whole thing is a disaster in progress. Most, if not all, insurance is way too complicated for the average person. Now on top of that, they are having it SHOVED down their throats with no way to get reliable, expedient and in reality, affordable health care without being persecuted, prosecuted, and in my opinion unfairly taxed. Whatever happened to a government of the people, by the people, and FOR THE PEOPLE? Washington D.C. is slicing it's own throat with plan.

    "By the people and FOR THE PEOPLE"? Yeah, there's a new interpretation of that which only applies to a VERY small number of THE PEOPLE.
    Basically only people on welfare. They just screw the average person and really screw the military and former military people.
     

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    Obama care is not about health but control/power of a big part of our economy not to mention personal data to know every aspect of your life, the true believers of Obama care should take note no one in DC wants the service. It is a disaster brought to you and me by radicals/communist/socialist. American voters need to wake up fast not much time remaining.

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    See I like the $50 plan. That is what I feel insurance needs to be for, emergencies not everyday stuff. You can hit that deductible in a heartbeat at a hospital if in serious trouble.




    So many people want someone else (insurance) to pay for them to go to the doctor every time they have the sniffles, tummy ache, don't feel right or a minor abrasion.

    We should go back to the pay it yourself for minor crap thinking. My doctor takes cash (and give a significant discount over what he charges the insurance companies). The way medical billing in this country is now is a complete mess, it's only going to get worse with the new legislation.

    When the doctor knows and you understand that you are paying for this out of your own pocket, both of you will think twice about piling on all the unnecessary procedures and tests that we have been indoctrinated to think we need.

    You health is ultimately your responsibility and many instances a direct reflection on lifestyle choices.
     

    Dawico

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    See I like the $50 plan. That is what I feel insurance needs to be for, emergencies not everyday stuff. You can hit that deductible in a heartbeat at a hospital if in serious trouble.




    So many people want someone else (insurance) to pay for them to go to the doctor every time they have the sniffles, tummy ache, don't feel right or a minor abrasion.

    We should go back to the pay it yourself for minor crap thinking. My doctor takes cash (and give a significant discount over what he charges the insurance companies). The way medical billing in this country is now is a complete mess, it's only going to get worse with the new legislation.

    When the doctor knows and you understand that you are paying for this out of your own pocket, both of you will think twice about piling on all the unnecessary procedures and tests that we have been indoctrinated to think we need.

    You health is ultimately your responsibility and many instances a direct reflection on lifestyle choices.

    Good point and I agree.

    I know many people that have great insurance and go to the doctor every time they stub their toe or get a hangnail.

    We have a pill for that.
     
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