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  • blacksheep

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    I keep getting survey's from the GOP and at the end they want a donation, I fill it out and donate 0 dollars.
    You back asshole rinos like our last choice for president.

    I do think it's time for a viable third party, I'm tired of voting for people that are not of my values.:banghead:
     

    oldguy

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    I seen Obama's speech or part of it,he also said Democrats think for themselves, huh, who or when did that happen.

    Big problem is the GOP went left,McCain, Graham,Snowe, KBH, etc,etc.
    What conservatives want is an honest person where as the left looks
    to someone who will build their social utopia,like the one in California,
    Russia, Cuba, which by the way have failed.
     

    frijolero817

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    I agree that they are no longer my party of choice. Republicans and Democrats both seem to move the same direction, but at different paces. Sure, they'll argue and put on a good show so they can act like they do things, but in the end they all work for way to much pay, too many donations, and anything but us and what we want. I can't believe that they get a retirement after serving a term. Maybe I'm in the wrong business. I made the decision that I'm Libertarian if I have the option, and voting out the incumbent otherwise.
     

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    I don't see the republicans tossing rinos to the dems and becoming true conservatives. Bigger than conservatism, I don't see the GOP dropping it's role as everyone's mother.
     

    Texas42

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    I don't see the republicans tossing rinos to the dems and becoming true conservatives. Bigger than conservatism, I don't see the GOP dropping it's role as everyone's mother.

    I think there is a bigger chance of a Republicans turning conservative than there being a trully viable third party.

    People just need to toss out their liberal republicans. If we did that, we'd have some good people. A third party is like hitting your head against the floor and the ceiling, IMHO.
     

    MadMo44Mag

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    Here IMO is what we need.
    This individual needs to have the following type of convictions and demeanor IMO.
    1/2 Constitutionalists
    1/4 Ronald Regan
    1/4 GW Bush Sr.

    Without doubt the GOP has lost there way.
    I may be 101% dead wrong here but as I see it the GOP has tried to gather more of the minority vote in the past 20 years and has leaned farther Left to accomplish that objective.
    Also IMO we have allowed our boarders to remain pretty much wide open so long we have lost control of the melting pot that made America.
    What once was the HOME OF THE FREE & THE LAND OF THE BRAVE is now only the land of the free lunch and public education.
    We have to get back to the government being a government for the people and by the people not the peoples keeper.
    Ok, I done said to much "Flame Me"!!!!
     

    Libertarian_Longhorn

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    I think there is a bigger chance of a Republicans turning conservative than there being a trully viable third party.

    People just need to toss out their liberal republicans. If we did that, we'd have some good people. A third party is like hitting your head against the floor and the ceiling, IMHO.

    Joe Lieberman at the RNC......unfortunately, until shit like that stops happening, the beatings will continue. The republican party is trying to align themselves with the 'moderate' voters, but in reality they're driving away the steadfast republican voter.
     

    MadMo44Mag

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    The republican party is trying to align themselves with the 'moderate' voters, but in reality they're driving away the steadfast republican voter.
    Truthful statement but I feel there is more going on. Up until the mid 80's the American middle class was made up primarily of anglo decent. That has shifted over the years. Not throwing the race card here at all just a fact.
    A good portion of those minorities come from 3rd world country's and the Socialist platform of the Democratic party is more appealing than the republican platform.
    They came from country's that did nothing for their peoples.
    Republicans have a different mind set Study, work, pay taxes and they don't want government interference in their daily lives because they can do for themselves.
    Different mind sets.
     

    frijolero817

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    I agree with you MadMo, I am of hispanic descent, but I was raised to believe in rational methods of success. Work hard, save, credit cards get you in trouble, get good grades, go to college, treat people with respect, and so forth. Anyhow, alot of my friends that are 1st generation americans believe that the gov should take care of you have parents who push that thought on them. In addition, they celebrate the likes of Che Guevara and Barack Obama for their revolutionary ideas. I simply remind them that Che killed many people ruthlessly to usher in a dictatorship that did not deliver utopia, and that utopia isn't brought about by a person who believes killing babies during their delivery is ok. Where in hell did these backwards thought find acceptance? Outside of America during Communist revolutions. After I explain this people usually try to argue but fall flat because they have no true logic to stand on. They are just ignorant of what they admire, and only look on the surface. I try to reverse that trend. If we catered to the constitution and our original traditions of success; the parties would not matter.
     

    MadMo44Mag

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    I agree with you MadMo, I am of hispanic descent, but I was raised to believe in rational methods of success. Work hard, save, credit cards get you in trouble, get good grades, go to college, treat people with respect, and so forth. Anyhow, alot of my friends that are 1st generation americans believe that the gov should take care of you have parents who push that thought on them. In addition, they celebrate the likes of Che Guevara and Barack Obama for their revolutionary ideas. I simply remind them that Che killed many people ruthlessly to usher in a dictatorship that did not deliver utopia, and that utopia isn't brought about by a person who believes killing babies during their delivery is ok. Where in hell did these backwards thought find acceptance? Outside of America during Communist revolutions. After I explain this people usually try to argue but fall flat because they have no true logic to stand on. They are just ignorant of what they admire, and only look on the surface. I try to reverse that trend. If we catered to the constitution and our original traditions of success; the parties would not matter.

    This is part of a different value system has taken over much of the 3rd world. They have only heard promises of socialist leaders of their home land.
    They come here to escape poverty and repression but bring a socialist element with them. Couple that with the promise of Utopia from the Democratic Party and you can see where this is headed.
     

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    A good portion of those minorities come from 3rd world country's and the Socialist platform of the Democratic party is more appealing than the republican platform.



    You nailed it, IMO, be proud of your heritage but when your here legal your an America first, the pandering of different groups, be they white, Hispanic, black, Asian,or any other will in the end destroy America.


    Stop giving away taxpayer money to buy votes, simple as that and watch the country change.
     

    frijolero817

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    I'm proud of my heritage, I enjoy the meltingpot in the sense of the food, music, and culture but it's only the American way (if you ask me) as far as our political value systems go. I wish we only had a flat consumption tax so you couldn't use class status as such a leverage tool.
     

    Greg_TX

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    I doubt the Libertarian party will ever be the answer. They've gotten a total of one electoral vote in a Presidential election since the party was founded in the 70's, and that was only because a Republican elector switched their vote. Despite all the bumper stickers and support from various corners of the Internet, Ron Paul was a virtual no-show in 2008. I fully support the idea of a 3rd party, but it has to be viable and the candidates have to have some reasonable chance of winning.

    I think the most likely scenario would be for the traditional conservative members of the Republican party to split off and form their own party. Ever since the "Big Tent" idea took root, the Republican party has been in decline. I'm not sold on the conventional wisdom that a party has to woo the moderate voters to win. Eventually these 'moderates' have to make up their mind, and the Democrats have hardly behaved in a moderate fashion these days.
     

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    I do not see it happening. There is no conservative leader to step up. The eastern republicans are not going to give Palin a chance, or any other conservative for that matter, and the candidate will be decided before the vote even gets down here. I don't like any of the male republican wanabe's.
     

    SiscoKid

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    Great back and forth here.

    One question that needs to be settled before Nov 2010 is where the Repug party really stands. Does it want to be truly Conservative with full conservative values? Or does it want to "include independents and disgruntled democrats"?

    We can't go on like 2008, saying we need to nominate Guiliani, Romney, or the McCain types. It does no good to pick up a few middle of the roaders but lose the conservative base.

    I do not want to support someone who at one time was for abortion, for "some" gun control. I don't care how many NRA functions he shows up at wearing an NRA hat.

    Give me someone who has been a lifelong hunter, lifelong supporter of the REAL 2nd Amendment. Not a Johnny-come-lately.
     
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