A gun with no serial numbers or markings

[sobi1998]

Hypothetical:
If someone gained possession of a gun that didn't have any serial numbers or defining markings (brand, caliber/gauge etc.) could they put their own serial number on it and register it? Not a homemade or 80% gun. I'm talking, brand made but someone filed off all the markings.


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[TexasBrandon]

No gun registration in Texas. As far as a missing serial number, I am not a lawyer and couldn't' tell you.

 

[easy rider]

I don't think I'd want to touch a gun that has the markings filed off. Sounds like a whole lot of trouble.

 

[Kar98]

I'd disassemble it and drop the parts in a different county each. Unless there's like usable and useful spare parts on it.

 

[sobi1998]

I've been thinking in the 10 minutes since I posted this....it wouldn't make sense for it to be legal. People would be stealing guns and re-numbering them and suddenly its there's free and clear? Lol


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[Vaquero]

Some older guns were without serial numbers from the manufacturer. They need to stay that way.

 

[Lunyfringe]

Some older guns were without serial numbers from the manufacturer. They need to stay that way.

^^^ THIS

how old is this gun? I think before 1968 comes to mind...

 

[sobi1998]

The hypothetical gun is an old Stevens 107b


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[Lunyfringe]

The hypothetical gun is an old Stevens 107b

The Stevens No. 107 (in all of its incarnations) was manufactured from 1912 through 1945. Approximately 442,500 were made during this time.

They would likely NOT have any serial# on them. it was not required at the time.

I also verified that model did NOT get serial#s issued by Stevens- they were a "value model", and mass produced without them.

 

[Kar98]

Oh, that's different then. Seems to be a very low value shotgun though.

 

[sobi1998]

So what does that mean for the gun? How would it affect NFA possibilities?


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[TreyG-20]

So what does that mean for the gun? How would it affect NFA possibilities?


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Are you planning on hacking the barrel?

 

[sobi1998]

Are you planning on hacking the barrel?

Just wondering if it could be done legally


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[BRD@66]

I've got two firearms w/o serial numbers - they'll stay that way. Both are low value & both are old - just like me.
And I sleep well (except for when I forget to take my NSAID).

 

[TreyG-20]

Just wondering if it could be done legally


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It can be, but should it? I think is a better question. Just the stamp alone would be more than the gun is worth.

 

[sobi1998]

It can be, but should it? I think is a better question. Just the stamp alone would be more than the gun is worth.

I know very little about NFA so forgive me but there's no loopholes or technicalities around having to get a stamp, since the gun is un-numbered and so old?


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[Lunyfringe]

It will have to be engraved for NFA, and google helps...
https://www.reddit.com/r/NFA/comments/2r89zr/form_1_sbs_without_a_serial_number/
Somebody thinking sbs'ing a Stevens, too... whodathunkit?

 

[majormadmax]

Wait, does the firearm in question have the serial number filed off or did it just not have one in the first place (i.e. was build before 1968)? There is a world of difference between those two situations, the latter being no issue whereas the former being a big one...

 

[ZX9RCAM]

My 1911 L.C. Smith has a serial number.

 

[Lunyfringe]

My 1911 L.C. Smith has a serial number.

There was not a law requiring serial numbers before '68, but many manufacturers assigned serial numbers to keep track of revision levels, etc... especially on more expensive models.