ABC NEWS: Boy got gun from home.

[karlac]

Children should be banned.

If we outlaw children, only outlaws ...

Never mind.

 

[karlac]

Your kidding right?

There is so much wrong with that piece of wrongheaded nonsense, it would hard to figure out where to start in rebuttal.

That answer your question?

 

[Younggun]

Hell, this oughta do it, you reckon:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/...8iry6aEaSJQ/mobilebasic?pli=1#id.6rwbsi7f5bmk

Liberal troll?

 

[karlac]

Liberal troll?

Shhh, you'll blow my cover.

Read my first post in this thread and ask that question again. Apparently it is impossible for libs to understand that lack of parental responsibility is the problem, not the guns, not the manufacturers or the folks who buy their stock, not the NRA, but instead their policies that emasculate family values in this country at every opportunity.

 

[Younggun]

Shhh, you'll blow my cover.

Read my first post in this thread and ask that question again. Apparently it is impossible for libs to understand that lack of parental responsibility is the problem, not the guns, not the manufacturers or the folks who buy their stock, not the NRA, but instead their policies that emasculate family values in this country at every opportunity.

Yet you forget that parents are legally responsible.

 

[karlac]

Yet you forget that parents are legally responsible.

Nope, what you're missing is that there is virtually no enforcement of the laws making parents legally responsible... just for starters:

When children fire guns are parents responsible? - BakersfieldCalifornian.com

 

[Younggun]

Nope, what you're missing is that there is virtually no enforcement of the laws making parents legally responsible... just for starters:

When children fire guns are parents responsible? - BakersfieldCalifornian.com

So should the parents be charged with murder?


I tried the filter the liberal BS from that article and stick with the parts pertaining to why parents aren't charged. And it is pretty much fact that a jury conviction would be nearly impossible in many cases.

Still, the law is there. Enforcement is on a case by case scenario. Personally, I am against any laws that have storage requirements but have no problem with laws for liability.

The system allows the DA to look at the situation and decide if the parents took reasonable precautions or not.

 

[karlac]

So should the parents be charged with murder?


I tried the filter the liberal BS from that article and stick with the parts pertaining to why parents aren't charged. And it is pretty much fact that a jury conviction would be nearly impossible in many cases.

Still, the law is there. Enforcement is on a case by case scenario. Personally, I am against any laws that have storage requirements but have no problem with laws for liability.

The system allows the DA to look at the situation and decide if the parents took reasonable precautions or not.

Yep, no better way to illustrate liberal nonsense than a liberal source. Glad you recognized that.

Murder? I can't make that determination with what is known thus far, and it is not up to me. But will state unequivocally that if you were to serve alcohol to an under aged individual visiting in your home, and they killed someone driving on the way home, you would most certainly be an accessory to the crime and held accountable.

i see no viable rationale in a diminishing of parental responsibility just because a gun was involved. AAMOF, that was the tongue in cheek thrust of that Parents Against Guns document link. Blamed everything but the individual and parents.

 

[Younggun]

Well, I have no problem with parental accountability. In fact, I think that accountability starts way before the kid picks up a gun. But in this case I haven't even seen how he gained access so I'm not gonna throw them under the bus for that part just yet.

The parents DID fail in knowing what was going on on the kids life which most likely stems from a failure to spend time and connect with the kid. Whether this was an obvious failure or something they were attempting to work through with him and ran out if time I don't know. There is know manual for being a parent, least not one that's worth a shit.


I feel like there probably were some major parenting fails for things to have gotten to this point.

 

[karlac]

And if that wasn't enough:

5-year-old Texas boy accidentally kills himself with napping babysitter's gun - U.S. News

Tragic ain't the word.