ABSURD SPEEDING

[ZX9RCAM]

I dont consider 27 mph over the speed limit to be “cruising.”

Depends what I'm in, or on.

 

[avvidclif]

What an absolute @$$#$%% you are! Not only did you respond to a partial quote. You offered up a partial quote of what I posted to fit your leftist socialist democratic view. Get back over to the CNN web site where you belong!

The rest of my post...
If it get's to where I can not see your windshield wipers in my rearview mirror... You ain't gonna be a happy camper at all. All of that said with the understanding that short of tailgating the vehicle in front of me or the fact that I'm in the slowest lane provided, short of the break-down lane - I'm going fast as I can.

It may not be "as fast as I can" but it's as fast as I'm going.

 

[Axxe55]

That's great until you get a ticket for driving on the shoulder, yep law against that also.

Up until about 1998 or 1999, I would pull over to the shoulder to allow a faster driver to go by me. DPS trooper gave me a ticket for doing that. So I no longer will pull over to the shoulder anymore.

Anyone that wants to get upset with me, then IMO, they can get the Texas state traffic laws changed!

 

[Brains]

No, you are the dangerous one.
And you have no "right" to chose what laws you get to ignore but others don't.

There's obviously no "right" to speed, and I haven't seen anyone say anything of that sort. There is however the concept of prevailing speed on a roadway, or 'going with the flow', whether someone likes the current conditions or doesn't. Sometimes that prevailing speed is under the limit, and that makes perfect sense. If it's pouring down rain the prevailing speed is going to be slower. Is it legal if the prevailing speed happens to be above the posted limit? No. Can you be ticketed if you win the cop's elective speed tax assessment? Yep. On the flip is it legal to go 65 in a 65 when it is pouring? Grey area, there's the possibility of being ticketed for driving 'too fast for conditions' but that is of course speculative. It'd be tough to prove in court unless you wrecked. Is it smart? Who decides?

Some people might try to live their life with a law book in their hand, but that's not exactly typical. Cop friends have always been very clear if they want to pull someone over, they can usually find at least one violation in a few blocks of driving. Besides, laws simply cannot control a person's behavior. Law can only influence, whether by agreeing with the law or by a conscious decision about risk vs. repercussions for being caught in violation. Just like carry laws, I guarantee most people here disagree with at least some part of the law. But, we choose to follow them because we know what can happen if you're caught. In the case of traffic laws, it's still a criminal charge to be caught speeding but the negative impact on your life is comparatively much less severe. People don't hardly give it much of a thought to violate that speed limit sign because it typically only means a few bucks lost from your pocket rather than a loss of freedoms.

 

[Axxe55]

There's a difference between driving on the shoulder, and pulling over to allow someone to pass.

It' illegal in the state of Texas to pull over on the shoulder, to allow a car to pass. The only way it's legal to drive on the shoulder, is to pass a car in front of you, that is stopped, making a LH turn for a two lane road, that has no dedicated LH turn lane.

 

[Coiled]

Jump to 13 second mark.

 

[KJQ6945]

Really, show me where you are exempted if you are letting other cars pass. Don't get me wrong if I'm pulling my RV on a 2 lane road I'm probably not going the speed limit. But if traffic builds up behind me I will find a place to pull over and stop.

FWIW Was anyone aware that most trailer tires (ST type) have imprinted on the sidewall "Max Speed 65MPH"?

First stop leaving the RV dealer should be at the tire store to remove those “China bomb” tires. They are a death trap!

 

[ZX9RCAM]

It' illegal in the state of Texas to pull over on the shoulder, to allow a car to pass. The only way it's legal to drive on the shoulder, is to pass a car in front of you, that is stopped, making a LH turn for a two lane road, that has no dedicated LH turn lane.

Well damn.

 

[Axxe55]

Well damn.

I got a $74 ticket to "inform" me in 1998 or 1999!

 

[Mowingmaniac 24/7]

Every driver thinks he's Mario Andretti or some other driving professional while all other drivers are always wrong in their driving habits, attitudes...

Me, IJDGAF how you drive...enjoy yourself while bitchin about other drivers...it's a delightful hobby - now outta my way boy, I'm drivin!

 

[TipBledsoe]

That's great until you get a ticket for driving on the shoulder, yep law against that also.

There's a difference between driving on the shoulder, and pulling over to allow someone to pass.

It' illegal in the state of Texas to pull over on the shoulder, to allow a car to pass. The only way it's legal to drive on the shoulder, is to pass a car in front of you, that is stopped, making a LH turn for a two lane road, that has no dedicated LH turn lane.

I'm aware. A year or so I had an opportunity to ask a state officer about it. He confirmed all three of these quoted posts. BUT he also highlighted what ZX9RCAM said. AND he described another situation similar to what Axxe55 said, yet with a kicker. He clearly said that most officers who recognize it as a courteous gesture will approve and not ticket the slower driver using the shoulder allowing others to pass. BUT he said that he issues tickets for this behavior when it is excessive - for when a slow driver just needs to raise thier speed up to the speed limit.

 

[Mowingmaniac 24/7]

Pulling onto the shoulder to let faster drivers go by is a South Texas tradition.

 

[Mills]

Back in the 90s my mom got ticketed for pulling onto shoulder to let car pass, sometimes you just can’t win.

 

[Axxe55]

I'm aware. A year or so I had an opportunity to ask a state officer about it. He confirmed all three of these quoted posts. BUT he also highlighted what ZX9RCAM said. AND he described another situation similar to what Axxe55 said, yet with a kicker. He clearly said that most officers who recognize it as a courteous gesture will approve and not ticket the slower driver using the shoulder allowing others to pass. BUT he said that he issues tickets for this behavior when it is excessive - for when a slow driver just needs to raise thier speed up to the speed limit.

The details of that day stand out because I got a ticket that cost me $74. I was on my way home from work, late at night, and there was traffic on that highway, though not heavy, and another driver came up fast behind me, and I was driving the speed limit of 55 mph. How fast the other driver was going, I have not a clue, but as he came up on me, I eased over to the shoulder and he passed, and then I eased back into the lane. In full sight of a DPS trooper approaching in the oncoming lane. As soon as he passed me he did a U-turn, got in behind me and turned on his lights. I thought he was going after the driver that I allowed to pass me and again, moved over to the shoulder to allow the trooper to pass. But I was the one he went after and ticketed.

Up until I got that ticket, I did the courteous thing and would let faster driver go by, easing to the shoulder. I had seen my grandfather and my father do the same thing, years before I even started to drive. So I thought it was the thing to do. I won't move over now. They can pass on the left if they want to drive faster than me.

 

[TipBledsoe]

The details of that day stand out because I got a ticket that cost me $74. I was on my way home from work, late at night, and there was traffic on that highway, though not heavy, and another driver came up fast behind me, and I was driving the speed limit of 55 mph. How fast the other driver was going, I have not a clue, but as he came up on me, I eased over to the shoulder and he passed, and then I eased back into the lane. In full sight of a DPS trooper approaching in the oncoming lane. As soon as he passed me he did a U-turn, got in behind me and turned on his lights. I thought he was going after the driver that I allowed to pass me and again, moved over to the shoulder to allow the trooper to pass. But I was the one he went after and ticketed.

Up until I got that ticket, I did the courteous thing and would let faster driver go by, easing to the shoulder. I had seen my grandfather and my father do the same thing, years before I even started to drive. So I thought it was the thing to do. I won't move over now. They can pass on the left if they want to drive faster than me.

Given your experience, i cant fault your feelings about it at all and I'd likely be the same way.

 

[Axxe55]

Given your experience, i cant fault your feelings about it at all and I'd likely be the same way.

Up until I got a ticket for doing it, I didn't know it was an illegal traffic maneuver.

 

[bbbass]

Speed limit is 20mph - I was doing 19mph.

The residential speed limit is 20mph on the main streets of my development, a former 55 and older area. However, many go faster. But if you are going that fast inside my short cul-de-sac like my millennial neighbors do, you're likely to get the "stink eye". That said, the only time I've made an actual objection was when a diff neighbor's guest continually parked for long periods with the booming bass on and the doors and trunk open... couldn't even hear my TV.

 

[jrbfishn]

There's obviously no "right" to speed, and I haven't seen anyone say anything of that sort. There is however the concept of prevailing speed on a roadway, or 'going with the flow', whether someone likes the current conditions or doesn't. Sometimes that prevailing speed is under the limit, and that makes perfect sense. If it's pouring down rain the prevailing speed is going to be slower. Is it legal if the prevailing speed happens to be above the posted limit? No. Can you be ticketed if you win the cop's elective speed tax assessment? Yep. On the flip is it legal to go 65 in a 65 when it is pouring? Grey area, there's the possibility of being ticketed for driving 'too fast for conditions' but that is of course speculative. It'd be tough to prove in court unless you wrecked. Is it smart? Who decides?

Some people might try to live their life with a law book in their hand, but that's not exactly typical. Cop friends have always been very clear if they want to pull someone over, they can usually find at least one violation in a few blocks of driving. Besides, laws simply cannot control a person's behavior. Law can only influence, whether by agreeing with the law or by a conscious decision about risk vs. repercussions for being caught in violation. Just like carry laws, I guarantee most people here disagree with at least some part of the law. But, we choose to follow them because we know what can happen if you're caught. In the case of traffic laws, it's still a criminal charge to be caught speeding but the negative impact on your life is comparatively much less severe. People don't hardly give it much of a thought to violate that speed limit sign because it typically only means a few bucks lost from your pocket rather than a loss of freedoms.

Trust me on this, I am no saint. On the road or off of it.

Going with the flow, prevailing speeds?
Totally irrelevant. If you are going with the flow, you are not passing. You are choosing to do the wrong thing using the justification that others are doing it so you may as well.
Law book in my hand. I don't always follow them, but I want to know what the consequences are when do. And I don't cry when I don't get to do what I want.
Really simple concept here.
Right is right and wrong is wrong. Period. No such thing as a little wrong or a little illegal. You gave examples of things that have nothing to do with the discussion.
Whether you commit a small wrong or a big wrong, a misdemeanor or felony, is irrelevant.
Y'all are crying because someone is holding you back from doing it.
Not much different than the left this summer. They went from right, to little wrongs, then to big wrongs to bigger wrongs. And then cried foul because others wanted them to stop and made excuses for what they were doing instead of excepting that they were wrong.
If little johnny jumps off a cliff, are going to do it too?
Just because someone else does or doesn't do it, doesn't make it right. No matter what twisted logic you use to justify it.

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[rmantoo]

I haven't read all 12 of the preceding pages. That said:

1. The law in Texas is that "Slower traffic keep right." I don't care how fast others, or I, am driving, if someone comes up behind anyone in the left lane in a multilane highway situation the guy in front needs to move right... I do it all the time, and it's the simple and courteous thing to do. It helps alleviate congestion, and justified ire, imho. Absolute speed doesn't matter: Only relative speed does. Slower traffic, regardless of one's speed, keep right...

2. I also move right, to the shoulder, when people run up behind me on 2 lane roads, so that the faster guy can pass and I don't impede traffic. I am sure that people have gotten tickets for this, but I"m also sure that I have done this in full view of DPS officers, and even done it to let a DPS Trooper pass me, and never had a problem.

I can't even imagine how much time both of these save drivers, in the macro, but I'd guess 10s of 1000s of hours, at least.

 

[oldag]

Really, show me where you are exempted if you are letting other cars pass. Don't get me wrong if I'm pulling my RV on a 2 lane road I'm probably not going the speed limit. But if traffic builds up behind me I will find a place to pull over and stop.

FWIW Was anyone aware that most trailer tires (ST type) have imprinted on the sidewall "Max Speed 65MPH"?

I have pulled on the shoulder to let DPS and sheriff's cars pass (and no they were not running with their lights or siren going). They never pulled me over for driving on the shoulder. Just went by and waved thanks.

For DPS to have ticketed someone for this, they must have been behind on their quota on the last day of month.