Afghan war

Discussion in 'Politics' started by wildcat, Nov 11, 2009.

  1. wildcat

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    SAW where we are losing more troops. If we would look at history instead of some bookkeepers starting our wars they would know the last foreign army successful there was Alexander the Great. Turks, Russians, Egyptians, British, and a hundred other armies, including ours, have got their buts kicked. GET THE FUCH OUT OF THERE!!!!!!!
     


  2. MadMo44Mag

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    These people in the middle east have been waring for centuries over their religions.
    We are there to protect US and UK oil interests and nothing more. You can claim to liberate the peoples from tyranny but that's BS!
    Oil is why we are there because the freaking tree huger's here in the US will not allow us to explore and extract the resources from our own lands.
    In the mid 60's the US government decided that it would be smart to import oil from the middle east rather than use our own resources. We see where that has got us!
     
  3. Big country

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    We are there to attack the people that attacked us and attack those that support the people that attacked us, not liberate the people the people don't give a damn if we live or die although I would think that a vast majority would rather see us die. The people that attacked us are likely in Pakistan by now but were in and we could win if the POTUS would pull his head out of his ass.
     
  4. wildcat

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    OIL is the keyword---All we need now is IRAN to lob a few nukes on israel and you can say "goodbye world". We need Teddy Roosevelt back--"Leave those idoits alone and walk softly and carry a big stick" Load your magazines and buy a bunch of ramen noodles.
     
  5. claymore504

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    We WILL win over there if Obama would send the troops we need. You can say oil all you want. But, people are being helped over there and it will take them standing up for their country to win in the end. Plus we are there to kill some terrorist trash. We walked softly long enough before 9/11 now we are using the hell out of our big stick. Closing your eyes and covering your ears does not mean the threat is not there and does not need to be delt with.
     
  6. GI-John

    GI-John Hurry up and wait!! TGT Supporter

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    After 911 the american people wanted blood for what happened. You can not just send troops on a mission to risk life, limb, and eyesight, and when the going gets realistic you just jerk them around. Soldiers and Marines are beaten in the head with "the goal/the mission", and its utmost importance. Im sick of this pull out crap. Both the U.S. Marine Corp. and U.S. Army have evolved so much since the invasion. Understanding the culture and working with it rather then against it has been a long process but it is yielding results. Need I remind you that the black liquid you think we should abandon will not only cripple this economy in its absence but also fund the wrong people with devastating arsenal.

    BTW, the loss of any American life to the enemy is depressing but for you people who refer to wars as won or lost. Crunch the numbers, Our death toll is a fraction of what we have inflicted on the opposition. Does anyone really win in war, NO. However if that is your outlook on war then you are still wrong.
     
  7. TrailDust

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    I'll agree to every word of that. Americans are upset because this area of foreign policy has lasted longer than two weeks, the maximum length of time the average American (or Congressman) can think into the future.
     
  8. wrtanker

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    I've heard that before about the last sucessful army was Alexander. But you have to look at the goals of each of those armies. Our goals there are much different from all those other guys, even the colonial British.

    As for just being about oil you have to look at how much oil we import from Afghanistan, or did before 9/11. Do you really think we're worried about oil from Af?

    This world has become a very small and connected place. You have to consider every action for it's global implications. Even what happens in Bolivia has implications for Europe if you look at the connections and impacts. This is a very complicated world with no simple actions. That said, I agree that we need to get busy and get the job done in Afghanistan. Our success there is vital for so many reasons. Our military can do the job if we have the proper support from our politicians. And that support is really complicated, too.
     
  9. brickboy240

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    If we'd drill here and tighten up our borders and watch who we let in...we won't need to waste our valuable soldiers in a shathole like the 'Stan.

    ...think about it.

    - brickboy240
     
  10. TrailDust

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    If only.... Welcome to America, land of idiotic political policy. We're sitting on 2 trillion barrels of oil, 800 billion barrels (about 3 times the proven Saudi reserves) of that oil is economically recoverable with global oil prices at $38 a barrel, yet we aren't touching a drop due to Presidential and Congressional policy. Insane!
     

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