I’m with you Txhillbilly, the difference in optics is as big as the load or rifle at any distance. Maybe bigger.
Alright I'm in
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Efile starts between the 15 and 28 of this month. I am waiting to docusign my form 4 until official announcement. Once that happens I'll docusign and we'll see how long the efile process takes.
I just passed 12. First two came in 8 — this one is taking forever.
Federal employees are under no pressure to a good job. No one in the Government cares if they do one form 4 a month or 100.....they do not get "merit" raises nor do they worry about performance to advance........got to love Government Unions........
Yep.
Try flying into DFW from abroad and see how long it takes to clear immigration and customs.
4 planes, 3 lanes.
They really don't work for us.
On a daily basis, I deal with a lot of Federal employees, with a few being my regulator and most as a customer, including ATF, DEA, FAA, NASA and many other agencies.
They all have performance and quality measurements they are graded against, in addition to documenting their daily efforts.
In a different role 1-4 decades ago as a government contractor for DHS, intel and other agencies, I saw similar performance requirements. With few exceptions, they all had individual, team and agency performance/ production. (Even the spies had performance requirements. Really).
So my view, having been directly involved with Feds for a 40 year career is substantially different than Vtach’s.
Silencershop is not submitting any n ew requests until the official Efile open date. So you can submit your form 4 but they wont file it until December 15 at the earliest via efile.
you know they said efile would start between December 15 and 28. Knowing the federal government it's going to be never. It's the 24th and they haven't submitted or cashed my check.
Anytime I see a (512) area code pop up on my phone I get excited thinking it's Capitol Armory. It's been 361 days since my last check was cashed and still waiting on the last can to arrive.
Good news is, my car's warranty will never expire.
Good news is, my car's warranty will never expire.
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The system was brought back online yesterday or overnight.
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The system was brought back online yesterday or overnight.
Yeah and of course Silencershop is out until Monday so I created an ATF account for nothing because I can't file a fucking form 4.
What's ridiculous is every person on this forum with the exception of a few could go into their garage and build this crap in less than an hour but because we WANT to obey the law we're being punished with tax incursions and long wait times.
It's really frustrating. I click the efile site today when I found it and of course I can't file my form 4 Silencershop has to do it. They did it over the holiday on purpose so the backlog builds and they are already behind. This is the federal government for you. Shitstain asshats every fucking step of the way.
It is. I made sure to get a can with no barrel length minimum so it could go on my 12.5" 6.5 and 10.5" 300 w/supers
I’m confused…I though Silencershop was handling that part on your behalf with an ss trust. Then I read this update from SS:
Silencer Shop atf eforms update
Silencer Shop News: ATF eForms has launched! Tap into ATF eForms, now!
www.silencershop.com
And it seems like they’re offloading that for you to do even though they said hold off for eforms.
I expect growing pains with the process, maybe I missed some details.
I’m confused…I though Silencershop was handling that part on your behalf with an ss trust. Then I read this update from SS:
Silencer Shop atf eforms update
Silencer Shop News: ATF eForms has launched! Tap into ATF eForms, now!
And it seems like they’re offloading that for you to do even though they said hold off for eforms.
I expect growing pains with the process, maybe I missed some details.
No you're right I'll have to call them on Monday and get it sorted out. Because on the ATF site it won't LET me file a form 4.
Just finished my E4 form with the help of my FFL Adam at A&P Armory in Magnolia through Silencer Shop’s new system. The communication is that it’s a 30-90 day turnaround. We shall see…. Silencerco Sparrow is on the docket. Will pair nicely with my new to me 22/45 Lite.
@DP - have an update?
@DP - have an update?
I did two with Adam on Tuesday. Super quick and easy, now that it is implemented.
