You have snakes in east Texas? I though the red bugs took care of them.
Why did you list it?Of the two options I offered, why did you choose that one?
Coop45; All,
My childhood friend Brenda, (who I've known since I was 3YO & "Bren" was 5YO,) & her hubby Dino have "a place on Caddo" & she often says that "The Cottonmouths & the Skeeters had a gang fight. The Skeeters won."
The Skeeters "get landing instructions" from the nearest FBO.
yurs, satx
I think you are on to something there. Maybe we could somehow manipulate the ANTIFA members to show up in Sweetwater during the rattlesnake round-up!
The first step is admitting you have a problem.Am I an idiot? Maybe. Probably? .
Am I an idiot? Maybe. Probably? Regardless, I pose this question for a specific reason.
Would it be a good / bad / other idea to consider a .410 shotty to potentially deal with snakes? We recently purchased a little less than 2 acres of wooded land on a ton of limestone. We have rock... everywhere.. and trees... rocks and trees. Seems like good snake habitat. We're currently cleaning up the land, setting up some small recreation areas for horseshoes, cornhole, and an airgun range. My concern is encountering some venomous interlopers while out and about the our little plot of Hill Country heaven.
Maybe a 9mm or perhaps a revolver with snake-shot would be sufficient should I encounter something while clearing trees or moving stones.
I'm guessing there are some opinions on this.
Wow, a 6 foot long steel rod bent at the end, that simple heh! Never would have thought of it. Do I need special tools to bend the rod or can I do it by hand? Should the rod be round or flat? How far back do I pin the snake behind the head? After that, how far back do I grab the snake? What would I do with the venomous snake once I catch it the way you described before getting it to the release point, do I put it in a sack or a cardboard box or what? How do you recommend I dispatch the ones I'd want to kill after I catch them?Seems like discharging a firearm just to kill a snake is probably fun but overkill.
Why not just get a 6' piece of narrow mild steel rod from Home Depot, bend the last 6 inches 90 degrees, and you use it to pin any snake to the ground from behind it's head, then relocate it or kill it based on your judgement and perhaps the type of snake (might want to keep rat eaters....).
The steel rod will never run out of ammo, there's no risk of a ricochet, hearing damage, frightening the neighbors, negligent discharge, etc. Ammo costs a lot of money these days, too.
Wow, a 6 foot long steel rod bent at the end, that simple heh! Never would have thought of it. Do I need special tools to bend the rod or can I do it by hand? Should the rod be round or flat? How far back do I pin the snake behind the head? After that, how far back do I grab the snake? What would I do with the venomous snake once I catch it the way you described before getting it to the release point, do I put it in a sack or a cardboard box or what? How do you recommend I dispatch the ones I'd want to kill after I catch them?
I caught, kept snakes for over 40 years; bred quite a few species too. Caught several venomous when I was younger and dumb (dumb because I went out alone). I forgot to put this at the end of my prior post .Glenn B,
A "professional snake handler" (OR an experienced amateur) would LIKELY move the reptile to the release point in a PILLOW CASE, which is then placed in something like a covered trash can or cooler, for transport to the release site.
(The married couple on ANIMAL PLANET from the RSA, who catch & relocate COBRAS, MAMBAS & African PIT VIPERS, are said to buy pillowcases by the GROSS & transport the snakes in what looks like an IGLOO cooler.)
yours, satx
I caught, kept snakes for over 40 years; bred quite a few species too. Caught several venomous when I was younger and dumb (dumb because I went out alone). I forgot to put this at the end of my prior post .
No pillow cases, most are too small. A snake bag would be better but any properly sized cloth bag made of breathable but completely closed weave (or whatever that would be called) is required - no cheese cloth bags, no burlap, no mesh bags or bags with weak seams or with zippers. You had best know how to properly bag a venomous species, how to tie off and manipulate (with a set of snake tongs not with your hands) the bag without risking a bite, and then know how to secure the bag and thus the bagged snake to prevent any risk of escape and thus of a bite after that. Placing the bagged snake into a hard container specifically made for snakes is best or you could use a galvanized trash can - something the snake cannot bite through. A locking container is best. No bent 6' metal rods either (imagine trying to manipulate a 6 foot long snake stick), should be using a professionally made snake stick or better yet snake tongs or best of all use both. If you are going to attempt to catch venomous snakes do not so it alone. Wear snake boots or leggings. Know the best first aid techniques for snakebite (not cutting and sucking). Have a first aid kit along, if possible have anti-venom for the type of snake (or at least know, both you and you snake catching pal, the location of the nearest trauma center with anti-venom and the shortest route to get there). There is absolutely no reason to catch a venomous snake if you are going to kill it as the other guy suggested catching then dispatching. Just kill it. Killing it from a distance at which it cannot strike you is safest, so safely shoot it. Many snakes can strike 2/3 of their body lengths on level ground, possibly further downhill or from tree branches. Don't handle a dead venomous snake with your hands or carry it close to your body. They can still bite and inject venom for amazingly extended periods after dying because of reflex action of their body parts. If you ever are bitten, try to ID the snake. Do not chase it and try to kill it, they can strike and inject more venom. Get yourself, or better yet, have someone else get you to a trauma center that has anti-venom or at least to an emergency room. Do not panic. panicking makes your heart beat faster and your blood flow faster spreading the venom faster. If bitten, do not drink alcohol like in they often do in movies. If you have already been drinking, avoid venomous snakes do not tease, molest, **** with them - you would be asking for a Darwin Award. Be extremely cautious around venomous snakes. If one was an imminent threat, then I might kill it otherwise nowadays, I look at and admire them from a safe distance.
For the most part, with snakes, I have a live and let live attitude towards them. Now venomous snakes near the house, are dispatched pronto. They are a danger to us and the dogs. More than a few of my dogs have been bitten.
A 410 shockwave, or a Judge are the two things I mostly had in mind. I guess most anything that chambers 45 LC will also chamber 410?If you don't hunt or play gun games (clays, 3-gun, etc), the .410 is an excellent choice. Versatile, yet doesn't beat you up with recoil. It even works for perp defense with 000Buck.
Skip the pistols and get a youth-size Mossberg 500 or a Shockwave.
... I was in at one of the gun shops in town last week and he had a couple cases of .22LR rat shot. I picked up a box and have dedicated the little Walter P22 as my anti-no-legged-personnel weapon....
I'm concerned about out dogs as well. One is far to curious about anything and everything. :/
A 410 shockwave, or a Judge are the two things I mostly had in mind. I guess most anything that chambers 45 LC will also chamber 410?
Not sure why it didn't come to me earlier, I have a little palm sized Beretta .22 that is pretty good at cycling just about everything. That would be pretty easy to have handy.
I do not believe that is a true statement.A 410 shockwave, or a Judge are the two things I mostly had in mind. I guess most anything that chambers 45 LC will also chamber 410?
Wow, a 6 foot long steel rod bent at the end, that simple heh! Never would have thought of it. Do I need special tools to bend the rod or can I do it by hand? Should the rod be round or flat? How far back do I pin the snake behind the head? After that, how far back do I grab the snake? What would I do with the venomous snake once I catch it the way you described before getting it to the release point, do I put it in a sack or a cardboard box or what? How do you recommend I dispatch the ones I'd want to kill after I catch them?