Americans Detained in Pakistan

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    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB126045800896585617.html

    There is a Sh*t storm brewing and soon will be right outside your door.

    By ZAHID HUSSAIN

    ISLAMABAD -- Five young Americans detained in eastern Pakistan had developed contacts with al Qaeda operatives through the Internet and were on their way to North Waziristan to join a militant training camp, said a senior intelligence official here.
    All of them -- students in their 20s from northern Virginia -- were arrested this week in the garrison town of Sargodha at the house of an activist of Jaish-e-Mohammed, an outlawed Pakistani militant outfit with known links to the Taliban and al Qaeda.
    The suspects had arrived in Pakistan last month. They are being interrogated by Pakistani intelligence agencies and the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the intelligence official said.
    The intelligence official said that information gleaned from their laptop computers and other material recovered from the suspects established their links with the militant network operating from the lawless tribal region bordering Afghanistan.
    He said the men came in contact with al Qaeda through its local operatives in Pakistan. Police have also seized some jihadist literature from the house where they were arrested.
    "We watched them for one and a half days and then arrested them," Usman Anwar, police chief of Sargodha, told reporters. He said they admitted that they had come to Pakistan with the intention of joining jihad. Police also arrested an employee of the federal highway department.
    A Pakistani security official said the five men were detained Monday. They had flown to Karachi on Nov. 30 and then traveled to Lahore on Dec. 5, and then on to Sargodha, he said. Investigations are under way and no charges have been filed against them, he said.
    Analysts said the latest arrests gave credence to the fears that Pakistan has become the main hub of global al Qaeda, threatening the security of the U.S., Britain and other Western countries. The arrests are likely to fan worries in Western countries that the sons of immigrants from Muslim countries are being drawn to violent Islamist militancy, a process made easier by the Internet.
    Pakistan is home to a number of militant groups waging a violent struggle against the government, mostly in the northwest. They have developed close links with al Qaeda.
    Two of the men arrested were of Pakistani origin while the other three have origins in Egypt, Eritrea and Ethiopia. They are all naturalized Americans. Analysts said the arrests showed how the appeal of al Qaeda has penetrated some young Muslims in America and other Western countries.
    "Al Qaeda is very successful in recruiting in the Muslim diaspora particularly among Pakistanis," said Raffat Hussain, a professor in the department of strategic studies at Quad-e-Azam University in Islamabad. "Its target is the young generation which feels alienated by the perceived repression of Muslims across the world."
    Scores of radical Muslims from the West are believed to have received training in al Qaeda camps in recent years and have now been fighting on both sides of the border Afghanistan and Pakistan border. In September, Pakistani security forces arrested Mehdi-Muhammed Ghezali, a Swedish national and a former Guantanamo Bay prisoner, who was trying to go to Waziristan to join al Qaeda.
    The traffic of foreign fighters has slowed because of a Pakistani military offensive in South Waziristan and some other tribal regions, but they are still trickling in. A senior intelligence official said many British and German citizens have joined the militants fighting in Afghanistan. Most of the new militants are Germans of Turkish origin, the security official said.
     


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    Help me out here HC - BS- which part????
     
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    Yeah they left to go become terrorist.
    If they have that mind set IMO they were terrorist to begin with!
     
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    Losers

    With that, stay happy and lighthearted but always be ready.
     
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    You know DC some day staying light hearted is very hard.
    This piece of news just really ticked me off because here they are in our country and enjoying our liberties and then because they can't get past their own narrow view of a religion they want to kill the very peoples that provide that liberty they have been enjoying.
     
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    I don't know why our doors are still open to many of the nations that publicly declare their hatred for the west or their citizens have joined jihad. I know some are technically allies, but does that mean we have to let them in? The middle eastern countries do a much better job of managing who comes in their countries than we do. We open our doors to whoever we do battle with. I don't get it. Here is the definition of a naturalized citizen:

    A naturalized citizen is a foreign national who is granted citizenship in the United States after fulfilling certain requirements. In addition to the United States, many other nations offer naturalization to people who wish to apply for citizenship. The naturalization laws for various countries are typically available through their departments of immigration.
    There are two basic categories of United States citizens. A natural citizen is someone born in the United States or born to American parents on foreign soil. A naturalized citizen is someone who was born in a foreign country, but took a series of steps with the end goal of being granted citizenship.
     
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    Yea it is. God knows the news pisses me off on a regular basis. When I'm out and about, I try to be polite, pleasant, and smile a small kids.

    Not only does it keep me light, it keeps me in the frame of mind that there is something worth defending in America.
     
  8. cuate

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    The enemy within ? Somebody is stiring these turncoats up....Is it the parents ? Some islamic imam ? Radical foreign agents ? Somebody working for the Fed Law Enforcement needs to do their job and get working on identifying and getting the cretins that hate America on the way OUT !!!! And we're not referring to conservatives that hate the rape and plunder of the freedom, honor, and honesty we once knew B.O.....We can take care of that at the ballot box if we can keep Acorn and others from stuffing the box.....
     
  9. MadMo44Mag

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    Some may wounder why I made that statement???
    The enemy is among us and there is a war being waged and in time IMO that war will erupt in our own back yard.
    There is no test, sniffing dog or magic incantation that can identify these people. In time there will be enough on our soil that are trained and armed to carry their Jhad to your front door; just like what is happening in other parts of the world.
    Until our government decides that properly screening, monitoring and excluding certain immigrating peoples is a matter of national security we best prepare to fight this war in our own streets.
     

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