And the herecy continues

[navyguy]

I get it. Bush had terrorists detained at Get-Mo, and that was evil. But BO can detain anyone he so chooses, for as long as he likes and it's with the law.

YouTube - Barack Obama CAUGHT Contradicting Himself

 

[1rightguy]

If it wasn't for double standards liberals would have no standards at all.

 

[MadMo44Mag]

If it wasn't for double standards liberals would have no standards at all.

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[FreedomJoyAdventure]

 

[Big country]

I am starting to see another civil war in Americas future. I don't like what I see.

 

[Big country]

I am seeing XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX's

 

[GM.Chief]

Sadly, I am not really surprised in the least bit that someone who hates our country and its values would try to twist the constitution to do his own bidding. I wonder how long until us gun nuts are locked up because there's a threat of us possibly maybe someday in the near to not-so-near future deciding to stand up for ourselves.

 

[DCortez]

The only sane and clear moment Rachel has ever had. We should all have one before we die.

 

[DoubleActionCHL]

It's NOT stunning at all. It's completely predictable. Obama didn't give up the executive powers afforded the president by the Patriot Act, which he venomously decried. He'll hang on to these powers and create more. Prolonged Detention is not limited to the detainees in Gitmo. Prolonged Detention will be applied to those deemed Domestic Terrorists by DHS. Just wait.

 

[MadMo44Mag]

It's NOT stunning at all. It's completely predictable. Obama didn't give up the executive powers afforded the president by the Patriot Act, which he venomously decried. He'll hang on to these powers and create more. Prolonged Detention is not limited to the detainees in Gitmo. Prolonged Detention will be applied to those deemed Domestic Terrorists by DHS. Just wait.

And many of us are in all probability already on that list.
In the words of an old sailor friend of mine - "Fukem and feed them fish heads and toss them over board - what the sharks don't want the crabs can have but at least they are below the water line"

 

[texas1willy2]

Hope you don't mind me piling on with a different one, this free pass is past ridiculous.
President Obama, Where Are Those C-SPAN Cameras? -- Politics Daily

 

[cog41]

It's NOT stunning at all. It's completely predictable. Obama didn't give up the executive powers afforded the president by the Patriot Act, which he venomously decried. He'll hang on to these powers and create more. Prolonged Detention is not limited to the detainees in Gitmo. Prolonged Detention will be applied to those deemed Domestic Terrorists by DHS. Just wait.

Oh yessiree. These folks are Evil.
They'll do whatever to stay in power. I don't think we've nothing yet.

 

[2Shots1Wound]

I think I'm OK with this. Yea it may be hypocritical but he's just refusing to let out the dirtbags that got caught with an AK47 out on the battlefield. I certainly don't want to pay for their lawyers. Bottom line is that its much more humane than the evil I'd have in store for them.

 

[DoubleActionCHL]

I think I'm OK with this. Yea it may be hypocritical but he's just refusing to let out the dirtbags that got caught with an AK47 out on the battlefield. I certainly don't want to pay for their lawyers. Bottom line is that its much more humane than the evil I'd have in store for them.

The problem here is not his position. I agree with his position on foreign terrorism. I even agree that we need to combat domestic terrorism, but I take issue with his definition. I agreed with his position before he admitted that it was his.

My problem is the fact that he claimed that he was going to close Gitmo, he denounced Bush's policies, he demonized the Patriot Act. Now he's embraced these policies and amplified them. He still claims this is not what he was doing and Bush was the devil himself.

 

[navyguy]

My problem is the fact that he claimed that he was going to close Gitmo, he denounced Bush's policies, he demonized the Patriot Act. Now he's embraced these policies and amplified them. He still claims this is not what he was doing and Bush was the devil himself.

Exactly! And Bush only detained those to be know terrorists. Obama didn't limit his comments to just terrorists. He left it open to ANYONE THEY felt were potentially harmful. That could be just about anyone. And he's proposing yet another governmental branch to oversee this without congressional oversight. Scary stuff.

One of the biggest talking points during the campaign was the Iraq war, and the surge. Obama denounced both, and when questioned about the effectiveness of the surge, he refused to acknowledge it was working, when all statistics pointed to great success. I can't remember the time-line, but it seems to me he said he would have all troupes out of Iraq in 9 months or there abouts. Well guess what, not only has he not removed any troupes, he has expanded the war into Afghanistan. He talks out of both sides of his mouth. I Can understand how people got duped into voting for him. He's a charismatic speaker, and his opposition (McCain) was weak. But why so many still are supportive of him escapes me.

 

[GM.Chief]

The problem here is not his position. I agree with his position on foreign terrorism. I even agree that we need to combat domestic terrorism, but I take issue with his definition. I agreed with his position before he admitted that it was his.

My problem is the fact that he claimed that he was going to close Gitmo, he denounced Bush's policies, he demonized the Patriot Act. Now he's embraced these policies and amplified them. He still claims this is not what he was doing and Bush was the devil himself.[/quote]

+1 If you realize you said some things without all the information and that the other guy was actually right, be a man and say so. Don't be a hypocrite and keep abusing the said problem while demonizing the other guy for doing what you do. The problem is he thinks it should be "do what I say, not what I do".

 

[navyguy]

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Don't be a hypocrite and keep abusing the said problem while demonizing the other guy for doing what you do. .

This is from the teaching of Sol Lewinsky. It is calculated.