Annnnnnd Dallas County just got themselves an MRAP!

[Blind Sniper]

Am I the only one who can think of a few (admittedly outlandish) scenarios where a vehicle like this may end up being useful?

Doesn't mean I approve of it, but I'd much rather these things be used than just rot away in storage.

 

[TX69]

It's just one....Meh.

Now if they were getting 30 I'd be concerned.

They have to start somewhere to fill the box of toys.

 

[CZ guy]

Am I the only one who can think of a few (admittedly outlandish) scenarios where a vehicle like this may end up being useful?

Yeah, having lost a good friend on the SWAT team trying to serve a warrant on a drug house where they knew weapons were present, I question why anyone would NOT approve. His widow and child would probably approve of using a missile to even the odds.

Any equipment that helps a good-guy do his job safer is a no-brainer to me. Somehow I thought the desire to go home at the end of the day was instilled in ALL of us and this vehicle will help with that. The cost was negligible when they acquired it and the vehicle will not be used everyday to patrol the streets so maintenance costs are not a real factor.

 

[Charlie]

Yeah, having lost a good friend on the SWAT team trying to serve a warrant on a drug house where they knew weapons were present, I question why anyone would NOT approve. His widow and child would probably approve of using a missile to even the odds.

Any equipment that helps a good-guy do his job safer is a no-brainer to me. Somehow I thought the desire to go home at the end of the day was instilled in ALL of us and this vehicle will help with that. The cost was negligent when they acquired it and the vehicle will not be used everyday to patrol the streets so maintenance costs are not a real factor.

Now that makes some sense. Good post!

 

[CrazedJava]

Do you really need an Assault-rifle with a 30 round banana clip assault magazine to defend yourself from anyone?

If it's legal for us, it's only fair for it to be legal for them. (The M16s, meh. I don't personally want to go through the hassle, but it is legal for us to own those, too.)

I can't legally own an assault rifle and I pay for the 30 rounders out of my own pocket.

 

[Shotgun Jeremy]

I can't legally own an assault rifle and I pay for the 30 rounders out of my own pocket.

Why not??

 

[CrazedJava]

Why not??

Maybe I should have said I can't own one with a tax stamp and paying thousands of dollars. Unless you are calling my SEMIAUTO only magazine fed rifle an "assault rifle", in which case that would be incorrect as I don't have a giggle switch on it.

 

[Younggun]

But you can own an MRAP.


Nobody here like the tax stamp BS, but it is a different subject.


Has anyone ever considered that the only reason the underside is armored is because the military originally requested it that way.

I highly doubt anyone in Dallas county said "Make sure we get one that can handle land mines!".


That's what the Feds offered so they took it. Would you rather them spend money directly from the county budget to have a van armored. I bet it would take a while for the slight maintenance savings to pay for the vehicle.

 

[Shotgun Jeremy]

Honestly, the only difference I can figure in maintenance costs is the MRAP oil/tyranny changes may be a little more costly. But the price of that will be minor compared to their maintenance budget.


The tax stamp was exactly what I was getting at. You can buy an assault rifle just like you can buy an MRAP. The price difference between an "assault" rifle and a normal one is probably the same percentage as a standard diesel pick up vs an MRAP.



Edit: tyranny? Smh. Lol. Damn spell check

 

[Sapper740]

Will .50BMG AP penetrate it?

 

[Sapper740]

Honestly, the only difference I can figure in maintenance costs is the MRAP oil/tyranny changes may be a little more costly. But the price of that will be minor compared to their maintenance budget.


The tax stamp was exactly what I was getting at. You can buy an assault rifle just like you can buy an MRAP. The price difference between an "assault" rifle and a normal one is probably the same percentage as a standard diesel pick up vs an MRAP.

oil/tyranny - was that a Freudian slip?

 

[Shotgun Jeremy]

It was auto correct at its finest.

I don't know what its penetration specs are. You can disable them if you know where you're shooting. But the passengers will be safe until back up arrives if the vehicle is disabled.

 

[shooterfpga]

It was auto correct at its finest.

I don't know what its penetration specs are. You can disable them if you know where you're shooting. But the passengers will be safe until back up arrives if the vehicle is disabled.

They can be disabled pretty easily these are not the newest maxxpros so not only do they suck and tip over easily but they are easy to penetrate. Also for about $10 anyone can make a penetrator that will completely disable it using household materials we teach during one of our classes briefing soldiers on what to look for.

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[Stukaman]

I won't be worried till I start seeing M1s patrolling the streets, my warped mind can't quite figure out how to kill one of those with the materials at hand.


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[breakingcontact]

I won't be worried till I start seeing M1s patrolling the streets

Give it a few years.

 

[Texan2]

It was free. One second local and state governments need to be more frugal, then when they are....well, you see how that works.

The "militarization of police" in this country is almost laughable. The police are almost always outgunned by the criminals in the U.S. which leads to the bizarre quandary in which people think they should be able to own ANYTHING and the police should be limited in what tools are available to them. Irony.
Do I believe that you should be able to own essentially any firearm that you can afford? Yes. But when police have to deal with those who have made the decision to accumulate a stockpile of weapons and for whatever reason have to crossed over to the other side of the law, the police should have every option available to make arrests without the need for gun play or officer (or arrestees) getting hurt.

 

[Texan2]

They can be disabled pretty easily these are not the newest maxxpros so not only do they suck and tip over easily but they are easy to penetrate. Also for about $10 anyone can make a penetrator that will completely disable it using household materials we teach during one of our classes briefing soldiers on what to look for.

They are still safer than approaching a well armed barricaded suspect in a Crown Vic, a Tahoe or a Charger.

 

[Shotgun Jeremy]

I won't be worried till I start seeing M1s patrolling the streets, my warped mind can't quite figure out how to kill one of those with the materials at hand.


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There's two ways I know of. Both require a grenade, or rocket launcher.

Random fact: The first gen M1's were designed with the exhaust such a way that you couldn't drive the tank in the rain. They've since fixed that with sort of a cowling.

 

[Texan2]

But you can own an MRAP.


Nobody here like the tax stamp BS, but it is a different subject.


Has anyone ever considered that the only reason the underside is armored is because the military originally requested it that way.

I highly doubt anyone in Dallas county said "Make sure we get one that can handle land mines!".


That's what the Feds offered so they took it. Would you rather them spend money directly from the county budget to have a van armored. I bet it would take a while for the slight maintenance savings to pay for the vehicle.

Most reasoned post in the thread.

 

[Younggun]

There's two ways I know of. Both require a grenade, or rocket launcher.

Random fact: The first gen M1's were designed with the exhaust such a way that you couldn't drive the tank in the rain. They've since fixed that with sort of a cowling.

Soooo, wait for a rain storm and shoot holes in the cowling.


Got it, thanks.