Another guy tried twice for same crime

[deemus]

He was pardoned by the Kentucky governor for murder . Feds tried and convicted him.

Pardoned Kentucky killer sentenced to 42 years in prison — NBC News

Patrick Baker had been pardoned for the 2014 drug robbery killing of Donald Mills, but was convicted a second time after federal authorities brought new charges against him.

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[kyletxria1911a1]

That mf should be shot
Oops my bad he also pardoned a child molester that who I thought he was

 

[Hoji]

Nothing at all ok about anything in that story. Nothing.

 

[deemus]

I was shocked the guy got pardoned until I read his family supported the governor.

 

[Axxe55]

Federal prosecutors said Baker was prosecuted the second time under the “dual sovereignty doctrine,” which allows state and federal officials to prosecute the same defendant for the same actions without infringing on double jeopardy protections.

Lets just do away with the 5th Amendment's "double jeopardy clause" .

Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution - Wikipedia

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Double Jeopardy Clause - Wikipedia

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[oldag]

Federal prosecutors said Baker was prosecuted the second time under the “dual sovereignty doctrine,” which allows state and federal officials to prosecute the same defendant for the same actions without infringing on double jeopardy protections.

Lets just do away with the 5th Amendment's "double jeopardy clause" .

Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution - Wikipedia

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Double Jeopardy Clause - Wikipedia

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Might as well, seeing how often the liberal Feds violate it.

 

[Axxe55]

After reading up on the "dual sovereignty clause", I don't agree with that either. If the outcome in one trial isn't satisfactory, try them again in another court or district. They may use that as case against the "double jeopardy clause", but IMO, regardless of how the SC ruled, it's an end run around the double jeopardy rule of the 5th Amendment.

 

[kyletxria1911a1]

Tr

After reading up on the "dual sovereignty clause", I don't agree with that either. If the outcome in one trial isn't satisfactory, try them again in another court or district. They may use that as case against the "double jeopardy clause", but IMO, regardless of how the SC ruled, it's an end run around the double jeopardy rule of the 5th Amendment.

Tru dat brother gotta abide the rule of law.
But if that's my kin he killed damm the pardon he dies...
Call it what you want but I'm facing the judge.
If you find out the whole story.
The governor was on his getting voted voted out.
So he pardoned a bunch of hard core felons.
As a big middle finger to the state on the way out.

Go check him.out

 

[oldag]

Tr

Tru dat brother gotta abide the rule of law.
But if that's my kin he killed damm the pardon he dies...
Call it what you want but I'm facing the judge.
If you find out the whole story.
The governor was on his getting voted voted out.
So he pardoned a bunch of hard core felons.
As a big middle finger to the state on the way out.

Go check him.out

Understand. But the fact was he is being tried for the same crime twice. And that ain't right.

The system is not perfect. Not every criminal pays the price we would like. But the same thing that protects the criminal protects the law abiding citizen.

 

[Wiliamr]

Yep... Look at this case very very closely and see if you can imagine another case recently decided by a court in a state that was a not guilty verdict and leaves open the door to Federal charges... Maybe? Maybe not?

 

[kyletxria1911a1]

Understand. But the fact was he is being tried for the same crime twice. And that ain't right.

The system is not perfect. Not every criminal pays the price we would like. But the same thing that protects the criminal protects the law abiding citizen.

That is why I said oops wrong guy..
I'm a true believer In no second bite at the apple..
Agreed it's a bullshit call

 

[Sasquatch]

Yep... Look at this case very very closely and see if you can imagine another case recently decided by a court in a state that was a not guilty verdict and leaves open the door to Federal charges... Maybe? Maybe not?

There are bunches for sure. Federal intimidation of state prosecutors - like the feds threatening to try Derek Chauvin for civil rights violations if he wasn't convicted in state court. Feds floating the idea of charging Kyle Rittenhouse. Feds floating the idea of charging the three idiots in the Arbury murder trial. "Give us the verdict we want, or we'll charge you again"

 

[kyletxria1911a1]

I was talking about a child molester that abused a young child for 4yrs that he pardoned

 

[Renegade]

Nothing at all ok about anything in that story. Nothing.

Nothing says we know this is double jeopardy more than the Feds giving him time served credit for the 30 months he already served on state charges.

However, if anyone is going to get phucked over by DJ, this guy seems to be worthy of it. If only the Gov could be charged too.

 

[Axxe55]

the state and feds should get their ducks in a row and decide from the get go who is going to charge and try someone before it ever gets to trial, or after any verdict or ruling has been made. The "dual sovereignty clause" is pure bullshite!

 

[andre3k]

Read up on Willie Francis, that kid was executed twice by the state of Louisiana.

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