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Anyone else going to stop using YouTube?

Discussion in 'Off-Topic Chat' started by Fosty 2.0, Jun 9, 2019.

  1. F350-6

    F350-6 TGT Addict

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    You seem to believe that just because of a couple of SCOTUS rulings that youtube is still a place for free speech. That's where we differ in opinion. The censorship has already started in my mind. Regardless of what the courts say. If youtube is really an integral part of the first amendment, then why do we constantly read news stories about right leaning channels being suspended?

    My position is, if the censorship has already started, shut the whole thing down. Both sides. Move on to a new platform that is actually a level playing field. That's the only way to ensure the new guys learn from the mistakes of the old guys.

    But everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and I'll respect yours. You keep watching youtube because SCOTUS says they're not supposed to censor the right. It's apparent to me from the OP, that others are starting to look for other venues due to the already existing censorship you don't want to admit is already in place.

    But any help with my scarecrow would be appreciated.
     


  2. gshayd

    gshayd Ugliest house on the block.

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    Youtube has a lot of instructional videos that have allowed me to do repairs to home appliances and other stuff. So No....

    A forum owned by a private person or company on the internet can be subject to the whims of that person. If you want the freedom of speech on the internet start your own forum and let people say what they want to. However, you will end up banning some people because they are not civil and are bat shat crazy.
     
  3. avvidclif

    avvidclif RFTW 2010

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    Right, home appliance repair is a threat to the socialists. How to fix your car etc... Sheesh wake up. This forum is not about appliance repair.
     
  4. Younggun

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    You are once again arguing against a straw man.

    I never once said I watched YouTube because of a SCOTUS opinion. Nor did I say that the opinions expressed to this point are stopping YouTube from doing what they have been.

    I did say that the opinions are paving the groundwork for new legislation that could limit YouTube and other platforms ability to censor.


    I appreciate that you respect my opinion, but I would appreciate it more if you would accurately describe it based on what I’ve posted and not the arguments you would prefer to knock down instead.

    As far as knocking YouTube down, I don’t believe it will happen. Last I heard it was a net loss anyways. That may have changed though. Google will continue to support it and google isn’t going anywhere.

    Facebook, Twitter? They will either buy the competition or work with the other platforms as well as leftist media in order to cut off every avenue to hosting and funding.

    These platforms have become so large and with so many tendrils they can control the competition.


    The video posted above really is a good overview of the issues with their private platform claim as well as the governing laws. A large issue being that they are offered protections because as a service the speech posted is not considered their own as would be the case for a publisher. They can’t be held responsible for anything posted. At the same time they claim they shouldn’t have to allow speech they disagree with because they it violates their free speech rights. They are attempting to claim to realities exist at the same time in order to claim to conflicting protections.

    I can’t make you, but I urge you to watch the vid. If you choose to simply not use the service based on their actions I can respect that. But I don’t think these platforms will be taken down by any sort of protest or strike. They are massive, multinational, coordinated, and supported by other industries.


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  5. easy rider

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  6. F350-6

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    The conversation started long before SOCUTUS was brought up. You're against fighting back by trying to censor the other side in response to their censorship. That's where this all started.

    And thank you, but I'll pass on your video. I was just commenting on a thread posted by someone else and throwing my thoughts in there. I didn't quit youtube because of all this. I never started youtube. Sure I've seen a few videos before, but my youtube time over the last several years could be counted in minutes per year, not hours, so don't take offense to me not watching your video.
     
  7. easy rider

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    Are you saying that censorship should be fought with censorship?

    Is that like saying that fascism should be fought using fascism? That's what antifa does.

    I certainly never heard a good explanation where two wrongs make a right.
     
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  8. Younggun

    Younggun Ginger Avenger TGT Supporter Admin

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    It’s not my video, my channel is nothing more than some RC plane stuff and splattered rabbits for sharing with friends.


    Not offended that you don’t watch it either. I was just giving you an easy opportunity to become more educated on the issues surrounding social media censorship and how they relate to the first amendment. I have no reason to be offended by your decision to watch it or not.





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  9. Double Naught Spy

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    Maybe so, but in the grand scheme, it is their house. Regardless of the reasons they give, they get to make the rules. They get to change the rules. Their rules don't have to make sense. Users and creators on the site are there as guests, nothing more. Folks can try to reason with YouTube, but there isn't going to be any way to force them into being more gun friendly.
     
  10. Charlie

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    Reference to the title of this thread ............. Never used YouTube and never will. :banana:
     


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