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AR lowers aren't rifles?

Discussion in 'Gun Legislation' started by Dawico, Oct 13, 2019.

  1. Dawico

    Dawico TGT Addict Lifetime Member

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    https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/t...-15-lower-as-a-firearm-is-in-serious-trouble/

    Ultimately AR lowers don't fit the legal description of actually being a firearm so a few courts have ruled in favor of defendants charged with selling them as unlicensed dealers.

    In the long run I am not sure if this is a good thing or bad.

    A new legal definition of what a firearm is may be bad news.

    Thoughts?
     


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  2. Bozz10mm

    Bozz10mm TGT Addict TGT Supporter

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    Could lead to the ATF reclassifying AR 15 uppers as firearms.
     
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  3. Bithabus

    Bithabus ! TGT Supporter

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    Not sure how this is different from a Glock. Maybe Glock frames aren't firearms either.
     
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  4. Charlie

    Charlie TGT Addict TGT Supporter

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    That's what I'm thinking. If the AR "lower not being a firearm" concept is pushed too hard and too far, it might backfire big time!
     
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  5. Renegade

    Renegade SuperOwner

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    The industry moves faster than the law. Lots of "firearms" do not meet the GCA68 definitions. Hence why BATFE tends to "Make Stuff Up".
     
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  6. Renegade

    Renegade SuperOwner

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    Those do not meet the definition either.

    Firearm Frame or Receiver
    That part of a firearm which provides housing for the hammer, bolt or breechblock, and firing mechanism, and which is usually threaded at its forward portion to receive the barrel. 27 CFR ยง 478.11.

    In an AR, housing for the hammer and firing mechanism is in lower, housing for bolt and threading for barrel is in upper. So whichever half you use, something is in the other half.
     
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  7. Army 1911

    Army 1911 TGT Addict

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    If AR lowers are not the firearm then all semi-automatic pistols would fall under the same category.
     
  8. Brains

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    So neither is the firearm until they are assembled? We are free to purchase the components as we choose, and since we are manufacturing for our own use, no FFL needed at all? I like it.
     
  9. Dad_Roman

    Dad_Roman TGT Addict TGT Supporter

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    Rhetorical eh?

    They can define anything as anything at any given moment as proven out this past year.

    That scares me.
     
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  10. Hoji

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