Armed Teacher Poll

[puma guy]

I don't know if outside polls are allowed. If not moderators I apologize and please remove. You have to click on the check mark to see the results. Poll was 76% positive this morning but now stands at 45% positive.

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/poll-do-you-agree-laws-allowing-teachers-carry-concealed-weapons

 

[easy rider]

MSNBC is about as anti gun liberal as you can get, I'm not sure I would trust their poll. Not only would I suspect they would stack that poll against such a measure, but I don't think many, percentage wise, pro gun conservatives would visit their site to cast a vote. So in other words, I don't think it would be a true representation of Americans on average.

 

[puma guy]

MSNBC is about as anti gun liberal as you can get, I'm not sure I would trust their poll. Not only would I suspect they would stack that poll against such a measure, but I don't think many, percentage wise, pro gun conservatives would visit their site to cast a vote. So in other words, I don't think it would be a true representation of Americans on average.

I don't trust them either, especially with a 30% swing in a matter of hours today, but they will use the results regardless. We still have to try to swing the vote.

 

[Charlie]

I personally think ANY poll taken on the internet has NO significant value or accuracy. And I never will. I can't understand how any intelligent individual can look at the results of some poll on the internet and accept that it has ANY accuracy!

 

[ZX9RCAM]

Now at 39%.

 

[Charlie]

Now at 39%.

Meaningless!!

 

[Vaquero]

Well, "those people" just got out of bed.
Our people have been up all morning.

 

[puma guy]

Meaningless!!

Perhaps legitimate polling concern/s will do similar polls and MSNBC can be called out for theirs.

 

[Charlie]

Perhaps legitimate polling concern/s will do similar polls and MSNBC can be called out for theirs.

Oxymoron!

 

[Wildcat Diva]

I love all the responses on here. That’s all the “poll” I need.

 

[Shady]

lets see if ar15.com can change that its now listed as a fire mission there.

 

[Charlie]

I love all the responses on here. That’s all the “poll” I need.

Yep!

 

[easy rider]

Now if they could prove that a poll was taken from only those that have an understanding of guns, I might put more weight behind it.

 

[Charlie]

I just can't put any weight on polls. For all we know, there could be a 13 yr. old (or groups of 13 yr. old children) answering every poll he or she can find on the internet.

 

[HKShooter65]

I'll make an unpopular comment.

In a professional capacity I interact with a lot on k-12 teachers.
I've spoken to a half dozen of them this last week.

In my unofficial, unscientific, unverifiable "poll" 100% of them, mostly young women, effectively say "no way in hell" would they or anyone they know want to be armed and trained to take on a crazed school shooter.

The reality is that a teacher with a handgun taking on a modestly proficient AR-15 shooter would be a suicide mission. How many 30-something 4th grade teachers would even consider this?

Painful as it is, there is no non-painful answer to what happened in Florida.

Not unless our society can recruit all the retired special-forces military men and women to be 3rd grade English teachers and HS geometry teachers!! I'll not hold my breath.

 

[Darkpriest667]

I'll make an unpopular comment.

In a professional capacity I interact with a lot on k-12 teachers.
I've spoken to a half dozen of them this last week.

In my unofficial, unscientific, unverifiable "poll" 100% of them, mostly young women, effectively say "no way in hell" would they or anyone they know want to be armed and trained to take on a crazed school shooter.

The reality is that a teacher with a handgun taking on a modestly proficient AR-15 shooter would be a suicide mission. How many 30-something 4th grade teachers would even consider this?

Painful as it is, there is no non-painful answer to what happened in Florida.

Most of the teachers that are women are actually k-5... once you get above 8th grade it gets a lot more heavily male... The distances inside of most schools you'd be talking about shooting at are less than 25 yards.. admittedly there are some corridors at my school that are as far as 100 yards, but I'd still rather take my chances with my 9mm than with nothing.

 

[ZX9RCAM]

If I was a teacher, I'd sure feel better holding a pistol, than a stapler, as a gunman was coming through the classroom door.

 

[oohrah]

I didn't read the links, but IMHO, teachers are teachers. However, we should have armed security in all schools, as well as access control, and metal detectors.

 

[HKShooter65]

Most of the teachers that are women are actually k-5... once you get above 8th grade it gets a lot more heavily male... .

Respectfully......83.2% of statistics are made up when the need arises???


Here:
3/4 of HS teachers are XX phenotypes.
https://nces.ed.gov/pubs2009/2009324/tables/sass0708_2009324_t12n_03.asp

We should all be fact-checking fools, eh?

 

[busykngt]

Not not sure I grasp the objection to ending “gun free zones”. I don’t see any proposed laws “forcing” ANY teacher to carry a firearm. Putting an end to gun free zones, just allows those teachers who have a LTC, to carry. Certainly doesn’t mean they must carry - it just removes the legal penalty if they chose to carry.