ATF proposed rule 2021R-05, Definition of “Frame or Receiver” and Identification of Firearms.

[Renegade]

Definition of “Frame or Receiver” and Identification of Firearms | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (atf.gov)

 

[mnpshooter]

90 days to submit comments as to why they are crazy.

Definition of “Frame or Receiver” and Identification of Firearms | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives

On April 11, 2022, the Attorney General signed ATF final rule 2021R-05F, Definition of “Frame or Receiver” and Identification of Firearms. The goal of the final rule is to ensure the proper marking, recordkeeping, and traceability of all firearms manufactured, imported, acquired and disposed by...

www.atf.gov

 

[Bozz10mm]

I think what they are going for here is to require the upper and lower of an AR to both be serial numbered. No more ordering an upper on line and having it delivered to your house because the upper will be considered a firearm just like the lower. At the same time, it renders an 80% lower much less desirable, virtually defeats the whole purpose of it.

I don't know what they plan to do about the millions of non serialized AR uppers that already in the hands of citizens.

Or maybe this explains it: Amend the definition of “gunsmith” to clarify the meaning of that term and to explain that gunsmiths may be licensed solely to mark firearms for unlicensed persons.

 

[Grumps21]

I don’t understand why they keep pushing this kind of crap. Has there really been a rash of shootings that this could have prevented? More like a solution in search of a problem..

 

[Mike_from_Texas]

I don’t understand why they keep pushing this kind of crap. Has there really been a rash of shootings that this could have prevented? More like a solution in search of a problem..

No.

Just more control. That’s it.


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[Cob]

This basically creating a problem so they can fix a problem and add yet another rule to the never ending list of administrative rules they have in place that serve no purpose

 

[MTA]

Time to buy upper receivers? Sounds like it

 

[Vaquero]

Aw hell

 

[Rhino]

Fight's on. Give 'em 'ell in the comments.

 

[Southpaw]

Time to buy upper receivers? Sounds like it

While that is not how I read it at first, upon rereading I can see how one may think that. The proposed definition is:

Frame or receiver.
A part of a firearm that, when the complete weapon is assembled, is visible from the exterior and provides housing or a structure designed to hold or integrate one or more fire control components, even if pins or other attachments are required to connect those components to the housing or structure..<snip>.....For purposes of this definition, the term “fire control component” means a component necessary for the firearm to initiate, complete, or continue the firing sequence, including any of the following: hammer, bolt, bolt carrier, breechblock, cylinder, trigger mechanism, firing pin, striker, or slide rails.

However, when reading what I snipped Any such part identified with a serial number shall be presumed, absent an official determination by the Director or other reliable evidence to the contrary, to be a frame or receiver. As well as reviewing the drawings of some current and past gun configurations that follow that on page 85 through 87, AR uppers don't look to be included on the redefinition.

https://www.atf.gov/file/154586/download

 

[Vaquero]

I ain't spoiling for a fight. I sure ain't backing down from this one.

 

[mnpshooter]

This basically creating a problem so they can fix a problem and add yet another rule to the never ending list of administrative rules they have in place that serve no purpose

That’s all Democraps do if you haven’t noticed.

 

[toddnjoyce]

115 pages of absolute bureaucratic confusion. I haven’t read thru it all, gut tells me this is ripe for abuse.

https://www.atf.gov/file/154586/download

 

[TX OMFS]

How about they go to hell. Congress writes laws, not bureaucrats.

 

[DoubleDuty]

Oh hell no, we aren't going to put up with having to serialize uppers they can **** off.

 

[rotor]

How about they go to hell. Congress writes laws, not bureaucrats.

Please no more laws from Congress. Not this one anyhow.

 

[TX OMFS]

Please no more laws from Congress. Not this one anyhow.

If congress has to write all the details they'd probably pass fewer. Now they get to hide behind various executive departments and point fingers at the secretaries.

But, yeah, congress should have to remove 3 laws for every new one they write.

 

[TX OMFS]

This Twitter account published one Federal crime per say to remind you why our government is retarded.

https://twitter.com/CrimeADay

 

[Darkpriest667]

It's hilarious because I can't find where to comment on this one. I've been able to on every other one but if you try the typical way it comes up with nothing.

 

[Southpaw]

Oh hell no, we aren't going to put up with having to serialize uppers they can **** off.

Where does it say that?