ATF proposed rule 2021R-05, Definition of “Frame or Receiver” and Identification of Firearms.

[oldag]

And this is just the beginning, folks.

 

[Bozz10mm]

Where does it say that?

At first glance it sounds like their definition would include the AR upper, but after reading pages 85-87 that you posted, I can see that they are excluding the ARs and handgun uppers. At least that is they way they make it seem.

 

[toddnjoyce]

It's hilarious because I can't find where to comment on this one. I've been able to on every other one but if you try the typical way it comes up with nothing.

It hasn’t hit the Federal Register yet. The 90-day comment period begins on publication there.

 

[DoubleDuty]

Where does it say that?

That was my initial interpretation

 

[gll]

 

[toddnjoyce]

One thing that caught my eye:

a. This Proposed Rule ATF chose to propose promulgating new definitions of “frame or receiver,” “privately made firearm,” “gunsmithing,” and an update to records retention and new requirements for marking silencers, because they would maximize benefits.​

Alternative 3—Grandfather all existing firearms and receivers. This alternative would grandfather in all existing firearms that would not meet the serialization standard for partially complete and split frames or receivers. This was considered and incorporated into the proposed alternative, where feasible. However, in order to enforce the regulation, a complete grandfathering of existing firearms and silencers is problematic in that manufacturers could continue to produce non-compliant firearm frames or receivers and falsely market them as grandfathered firearms. This could potentially pose an enforcement issue that may not be resolved for years if not decades​

 

[V-Tach]

There has been BATFE talk of requiring uppers to be serialized for several years......

This will not end well.......

 

[toddnjoyce]

If I gotta serialize all my uppers, they’re gonna be FU46-001 and go sequential from there.

 

[Zazonkers]

Well, interesting and convoluted. I cannot figure out how by any reasonable standard that an 80% could be considered a firearm. As soon as it’s had the finished machining completed, sure, it would be basically a lower receiver that can ”readily” be assembled.... eventually. But in it’s 80% state, it is nothing but a hunk of useless aluminum. Here ya go soldier Timmy, take this 80% lower and go defend America! Right....

 

[toddnjoyce]

Remembered about this thread due to @Southpaw’s other thread on ATF NPRM.

The comment period is open thru August 19,
2021. ~45K comments registered already.

Definition of “Frame or Receiver” and Identification of Firearms

The Department of Justice (``Department'') proposes amending Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (``ATF'') regulations to provide new regulatory definitions of ``firearm frame or receiver'' and ``frame or receiver'' because the current regulations fail to capture the full meaning...

www.federalregister.gov

 

[popper]

Rule (the servants) by confusion.

 

[Cob]

The do not think of us a servants they think of us a serfs who are unfortunately aremev

 

[MTA]

Remembered about this thread due to @Southpaw’s other thread on ATF NPRM.

The comment period is open thru August 19,
2021. ~45K comments registered already.

Definition of “Frame or Receiver” and Identification of Firearms

The Department of Justice (``Department'') proposes amending Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (``ATF'') regulations to provide new regulatory definitions of ``firearm frame or receiver'' and ``frame or receiver'' because the current regulations fail to capture the full meaning...

www.federalregister.gov

Done

 

[V-Tach]

The Latest BATFE FFL News letter....some good information

PDF file no need to download.........

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/newsletter/federal-firearms-licensee-ffl-newsletter-june-2021/download

 

[TexasVet11b]

I love the legislation proposed that calls for dissolving the atf, i wish it would happen but it wont.

 

[LinuxAssailant]

Nothing says draconian, like ignoring actual facts, and basing everything on feelings...
Like they are saying "My Truth..."

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[Renegade]

Nothing says draconian, like ignoring actual facts, and basing everything on feelings...

The facts in their eyes it is easier to ban guns via a Salami Technique than all at once. And they are right. If any gun owner thinks this is about reducing crime, they dont understand what is going on.

 

[motorcarman]

On March 4, 2022 the NY Times reported that the ATF Rule 2021R-05 would be finalized in early April and would go into effect 60 days later.

FINAL RULE 2021R-05F ANNOUNCED APRIL 11, 2022 - ACT NOW!

Update 4/11/22 The White House issued a press release before the 2:15 PM ET announcement today about ATF Rule 2021-05. The final rule can be found here. We are currently analyzing the differences between this final rule and the previously proposed rule. Stay tuned... Update 4/10/22...

www.80-lower.com

Biden's New Rule On 80% Unfinished Firearms Expected In April 2022 ~ VIDEO

The failing Biden administration is desperate for a victory, & “ghost guns” are where they think he can get a win.

www.ammoland.com

 

[DoubleDuty]

This is more overreach by the ATF. Our government is tyrannaical

 

[Texasjack]

Here's the million dollar question: What will this proposal accomplish, except to allow the ATF to go after a bunch of innocent gun owners?

Answer: Nothing.