How to fill out a Form 1 or 4, effective 7/13/16
Credit to BigWaylon for putting this together and giving me permission to use his work.
I have this information posted on my website here:
Form 4 and Form 1: Step by Step instructions and graphics are located here:
Form 4: http://www.texasnfatrust.com/form-4---atf41f-.html
Form 1: http://www.texasnfatrust.com/form-1---post-atf-41f---how-to-complete-them.html
Responsible Persons Form: http://www.texasnfatrust.com/5320.23-responsible-persons-questionnaire--rpq-.html
Fingerprints: http://www.texasnfatrust.com/fingerprints-how-to-do-them----fd-258le.html
It seems that a lot of the questions that get asked/answered about filling out forms are because the person submitting the form either doesn’t read the instructions or simply is seeking confirmation of what to do. I am simply going to try to explain it as clear as I can using the ATF’s own words when possible. I will provide the reference to an instruction when necessary.
There are lots of guides on how to fill out the current forms, and a good bit of the info hasn’t changed. In an effort for this to be a one-stop shop, I’ll still cover all sections.
I am not going to get too deep into some topics, rather just present the data in black and white. For example, I’ll address three things here and then simply mention them later:
1. Fingerprints. The new wording is identical to the old wording. It simply says the person must be “properly” equipped to take the fingerprints. It does not say certified, trained, qualified, or any other word. Therefore, the assumption is if you could roll your own prints before these new forms existed, you should be able to roll them afterwards. Time will tell, or maybe the ATF publishes an answer.
2. Photos. The wording again stays the same. Simply a 2”x2” passport-style photo. In the past, many people have submitted their own, some even printing the pic directly onto the form. I even know people that print them out on normal paper and duct tape them to the form. Others obviously use a service as your local pharmacy, USPS, etc…anywhere that does official passport photos.
3. Responsible persons. This is a term that has had a lot of discussions trying to decide who fits the definition. Concerning a trust, the general explanation is that anyone who is a trustee is an RP, while those that are only successor trustees or beneficiaries are not. Corporations and LLCs will have different rules. I’m sure plenty of lawyers will play games with the legalese and try to minimize the number of people that qualify. All I can say is that the ATF’s definition from the F1/F4 reads as follows:
Responsible Person. In the case of an unlicensed entity, including any trust, partnership, association, company (including any Limited Liability Company (LLC)), or corporation, any individual who possesses, directly or indirectly, the power or authority to direct the management and policies of the trust or entity to receive, possess, ship, transport, deliver, transfer or otherwise dispose of a firearm for, or on behalf of, the trust or legal entity.
In the case of a trust, those persons with the power or authority to direct the management and policies of the trust includes
1. any person
2. who has the capability to exercise such power
and
3. possesses, directly or indirectly, the power or authority under any trust instrument, or under State law, to receive, possess, ship, transport, deliver, transfer, or otherwise dispose of a firearm for, or on behalf of the trust.
Examples of who may be considered a responsible person include settlors/grantors, trustees, partners, members, officers, directors, board members, or owners. An example of who may be excluded from this definition of responsible person is the beneficiary of a trust, if the beneficiary does not have the capability to exercise the enumerated powers or authorities.
Layout, as you’ll see, will be one section of the form followed by instructions. May end up doing the screenshots with words on them at some point, but I think they may be too busy at this point.
The following info is directly from ATF.gov (direct link: here)
FINAL Rule 41F – Background Checks for Responsible Persons – Effective July 13 2016
On January 4, 2016, the Attorney General signed ATF Final Rule 41F, Machineguns, Destructive Devices and Certain Other Firearms; Background Checks for Responsible Persons of a Trust or Legal Entity With Respect To Making or Transferring a Firearm, amending the regulations regarding the making or transferring of a firearm under the National Firearms Act (NFA). The goal of the final rule is to ensure that the identification and background check requirements apply equally to individuals, trusts, and legal entities who apply to make or receive NFA firearms.
Please note, the forms in PDF format below are not fully Section 508 compliant. We are working quickly to ensure they are accessible for all users of our site.
PLEASE NOTE: Final Rule 41F becomes effective JULY 13, 2016. Applications received with a post-mark of July 13, 2016 and after will be processed according to the specifications of 41F.
How Does Final Rule 41F Change Current NFA Regulations?
The final rule affects the NFA regulations by:
- defining the term “responsible person,” as used in reference to a trust, partnership, association, company, or corporation;
- requiring responsible persons of such trusts or legal entities to complete ATF form 5320.23, National Firearms Act Responsible Person Questionnaire and to submit photographs and fingerprints when the trust or legal entity files an application to make an NFA firearm or is listed as the transferee on an application to transfer an NFA firearm;
- requiring that a copy of all applications to make or transfer a firearm, and the specified form for responsible persons (5320.23), be forwarded to the chief law enforcement officer (CLEO) of the locality in which the applicant/transferee or responsible person resides; and
- eliminating the requirement for certification signed by the CLEO.
- In addition, the final rule adds a new section to ATF’s regulations to address the possession and transfer of firearms registered to a decedent.
Who is a Responsible Person?
In the case of an unlicensed entity, including any trust, partnership, association, company (including any Limited Liability Company (LLC)), or corporation, any individual who possesses, directly or indirectly, the power or authority to direct the management and polices of the trust or entity to receive, possess, ship, transport, deliver, transfer, or otherwise dispose of a firearm for, or on behalf of, the trust or legal entity.
In the case of a TRUST, those persons with the power or authority to direct the management and policies of the trust include
1. any person
2. who has the capability to exercise such power
and
3. possesses, directly or indirectly, the power or authority under any trust instrument, or under State law, to receive, possess, ship, transport, deliver, transfer, or otherwise dispose of a firearm for, or on behalf of, the trust.
Examples of who may be considered a responsible person of a trust or legal entity include:
- Settlors/Grantors
- Trustees meeting the description above
- Partners
- Members
- Officers
- Board members
- Owners
- Beneficiaries – if said beneficiary has the capability to exercise any of the powers or authorities enumerated above.
Credit to BigWaylon for putting this together and giving me permission to use his work.
I have this information posted on my website here:
Form 4 and Form 1: Step by Step instructions and graphics are located here:
Form 4: http://www.texasnfatrust.com/form-4---atf41f-.html
Form 1: http://www.texasnfatrust.com/form-1---post-atf-41f---how-to-complete-them.html
Responsible Persons Form: http://www.texasnfatrust.com/5320.23-responsible-persons-questionnaire--rpq-.html
Fingerprints: http://www.texasnfatrust.com/fingerprints-how-to-do-them----fd-258le.html
It seems that a lot of the questions that get asked/answered about filling out forms are because the person submitting the form either doesn’t read the instructions or simply is seeking confirmation of what to do. I am simply going to try to explain it as clear as I can using the ATF’s own words when possible. I will provide the reference to an instruction when necessary.
There are lots of guides on how to fill out the current forms, and a good bit of the info hasn’t changed. In an effort for this to be a one-stop shop, I’ll still cover all sections.
I am not going to get too deep into some topics, rather just present the data in black and white. For example, I’ll address three things here and then simply mention them later:
1. Fingerprints. The new wording is identical to the old wording. It simply says the person must be “properly” equipped to take the fingerprints. It does not say certified, trained, qualified, or any other word. Therefore, the assumption is if you could roll your own prints before these new forms existed, you should be able to roll them afterwards. Time will tell, or maybe the ATF publishes an answer.
2. Photos. The wording again stays the same. Simply a 2”x2” passport-style photo. In the past, many people have submitted their own, some even printing the pic directly onto the form. I even know people that print them out on normal paper and duct tape them to the form. Others obviously use a service as your local pharmacy, USPS, etc…anywhere that does official passport photos.
3. Responsible persons. This is a term that has had a lot of discussions trying to decide who fits the definition. Concerning a trust, the general explanation is that anyone who is a trustee is an RP, while those that are only successor trustees or beneficiaries are not. Corporations and LLCs will have different rules. I’m sure plenty of lawyers will play games with the legalese and try to minimize the number of people that qualify. All I can say is that the ATF’s definition from the F1/F4 reads as follows:
Responsible Person. In the case of an unlicensed entity, including any trust, partnership, association, company (including any Limited Liability Company (LLC)), or corporation, any individual who possesses, directly or indirectly, the power or authority to direct the management and policies of the trust or entity to receive, possess, ship, transport, deliver, transfer or otherwise dispose of a firearm for, or on behalf of, the trust or legal entity.
In the case of a trust, those persons with the power or authority to direct the management and policies of the trust includes
1. any person
2. who has the capability to exercise such power
and
3. possesses, directly or indirectly, the power or authority under any trust instrument, or under State law, to receive, possess, ship, transport, deliver, transfer, or otherwise dispose of a firearm for, or on behalf of the trust.
Examples of who may be considered a responsible person include settlors/grantors, trustees, partners, members, officers, directors, board members, or owners. An example of who may be excluded from this definition of responsible person is the beneficiary of a trust, if the beneficiary does not have the capability to exercise the enumerated powers or authorities.
Layout, as you’ll see, will be one section of the form followed by instructions. May end up doing the screenshots with words on them at some point, but I think they may be too busy at this point.
The following info is directly from ATF.gov (direct link: here)
FINAL Rule 41F – Background Checks for Responsible Persons – Effective July 13 2016
On January 4, 2016, the Attorney General signed ATF Final Rule 41F, Machineguns, Destructive Devices and Certain Other Firearms; Background Checks for Responsible Persons of a Trust or Legal Entity With Respect To Making or Transferring a Firearm, amending the regulations regarding the making or transferring of a firearm under the National Firearms Act (NFA). The goal of the final rule is to ensure that the identification and background check requirements apply equally to individuals, trusts, and legal entities who apply to make or receive NFA firearms.
Please note, the forms in PDF format below are not fully Section 508 compliant. We are working quickly to ensure they are accessible for all users of our site.
PLEASE NOTE: Final Rule 41F becomes effective JULY 13, 2016. Applications received with a post-mark of July 13, 2016 and after will be processed according to the specifications of 41F.
How Does Final Rule 41F Change Current NFA Regulations?
The final rule affects the NFA regulations by:
- defining the term “responsible person,” as used in reference to a trust, partnership, association, company, or corporation;
- requiring responsible persons of such trusts or legal entities to complete ATF form 5320.23, National Firearms Act Responsible Person Questionnaire and to submit photographs and fingerprints when the trust or legal entity files an application to make an NFA firearm or is listed as the transferee on an application to transfer an NFA firearm;
- requiring that a copy of all applications to make or transfer a firearm, and the specified form for responsible persons (5320.23), be forwarded to the chief law enforcement officer (CLEO) of the locality in which the applicant/transferee or responsible person resides; and
- eliminating the requirement for certification signed by the CLEO.
- In addition, the final rule adds a new section to ATF’s regulations to address the possession and transfer of firearms registered to a decedent.
Who is a Responsible Person?
In the case of an unlicensed entity, including any trust, partnership, association, company (including any Limited Liability Company (LLC)), or corporation, any individual who possesses, directly or indirectly, the power or authority to direct the management and polices of the trust or entity to receive, possess, ship, transport, deliver, transfer, or otherwise dispose of a firearm for, or on behalf of, the trust or legal entity.
In the case of a TRUST, those persons with the power or authority to direct the management and policies of the trust include
1. any person
2. who has the capability to exercise such power
and
3. possesses, directly or indirectly, the power or authority under any trust instrument, or under State law, to receive, possess, ship, transport, deliver, transfer, or otherwise dispose of a firearm for, or on behalf of, the trust.
Examples of who may be considered a responsible person of a trust or legal entity include:
- Settlors/Grantors
- Trustees meeting the description above
- Partners
- Members
- Officers
- Board members
- Owners
- Beneficiaries – if said beneficiary has the capability to exercise any of the powers or authorities enumerated above.
