The 4-16 lived life on a 308 for a couple hundred rounds and the 1-4 was on one of my ARs for a few hundred rounds as well. Both scopes have the usual very light ring marks and are 9/10. Both scopes come with their factory boxes and all the stuff that comes along with them. Looking to get 440 shipped for the 1-4 and SOLD for the 4-16 via USPS. Insurance and/or signature confirmation is extra. Im not interested in any trades at this time unless you've got a Shield or XDs in 9mm. Only reason Im getting rid of them is I bought a 4-16 in mrad and I sold the gunt he 1-4 was on. The PSTs IMO are the best value out there and I own 5 more of them so its not that I don't like these scopes, just don't want them to grow a rifle underneath them.