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  • Cordell

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    So I at Cabelas the other day looking at some large safes for when I graduate next year and will actually have rifles to put in one. Looking at the sale price and size of them got me thinking. A safe can not be expanded to add more stuff to it, once it is full, you've gotta get another one. What are your guys' thoughts on taking the two to four thousand dollars for an over-sized safe and replacing my walk-in closet door with a heavy duty steel door, replace the strike plate and hinges and and install a high grade security deadbolt. I figure that might be able to fend off any would be burglar long enough for my alarm company to contact the Sheriff's Office and get a deputy on-scene.
     

    reddog

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    Kicking in through the wall would go much faster than going in through that door. The closet would take a lot more hardening to make it sort of secure as a safe, and we're not even talking at all about fireproof.
     

    Younggun

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    Yup, the fireproofing is the first thing that came to mind for me. Most safes are not super duper burning jet fuel fire proof, but the will offer a pretty good amount of protection in a house fire.

    The closet.....not so much.


    If you do plan on the closet approach, I think a false wall would provide just as much protection due to the appearance of nothing being there. This would be pretty dependent on your ability to not mention that it exists.

    I have considered getting a "tactical walls" mirror for my HD guns.
     

    no2gates

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    I'd just get another safe once you fill up the first one. You can get a decent sized gun safe for ~1200.00
     

    Cordell

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    You guys bring up some good points. Especially about the wall. My thinking on that would be, that it would still take at least 5 to 10 minutes before getting through both pieces of drywall in by which either the motion senors throughout the house or the window/door sensors would have already triggered that alarm and have law enforcement on the way.

    Good thinking on the safe providing fire protection but that isn't too big of a concern. While a fire is very possible, I can replace damaged firearms. I am just looking to make sure that my firearms do not fall into the wrong hands.

    But nonetheless, these are some good points and I thank you guys for them.
     

    Shotgun Jeremy

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    As long as we're knocking out walls-replace your inner walls with cinderblock. You might could line the ceiling with sheet metal to prevent the rafters overhead affecting the guns. So-concrete floor, cinderblock walls, sheet metal ceiling.
     

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    You guys bring up some good points. Especially about the wall. My thinking on that would be, that it would still take at least 5 to 10 minutes before getting through both pieces of drywall in by which either the motion senors throughout the house or the window/door sensors would have already triggered that alarm and have law enforcement on the way.

    Good thinking on the safe providing fire protection but that isn't too big of a concern. While a fire is very possible, I can replace damaged firearms. I am just looking to make sure that my firearms do not fall into the wrong hands.

    But nonetheless, these are some good points and I thank you guys for them.

    You are overestimating your drywall. I figure 2 minutes from the first swing to have a 14.5" hole tall enough to move through quickly and throw out guns. Add a partner and prior knowledge that the guns are there and your guns will be gone in under ten minutes from the time they enter. Faster than the cops will arrive in the majority of alarm calls.

    Of course if the door is not obvious or they assume the walls are also hardened they may just go for electronics and scram, ESP if they know the alarm has been activated.

    Only one viable option. Harden the closet and put the safe inside.
     

    Younggun

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    Ok, another serious option.

    They make tornado shelters that are built in to closets. Not sure how expensive it would be to retrofit as they are designed to be installed during the building process and not really designed to be locked from the outside.

    I bet there are some custom safe manufacturers that could turn your closet in to an awesome gun safe.....for a price.
     

    no2gates

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    Ok, another serious option.

    They make tornado shelters that are built in to closets. Not sure how expensive it would be to retrofit as they are designed to be installed during the building process and not really designed to be locked from the outside.

    I bet there are some custom safe manufacturers that could turn your closet in to an awesome gun safe.....for a price.

    Man, I like the way you think! That would make an awesome gun safe.
     

    Byrd666

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    ...Or you could possibly get some sheets of 10 ga. sheets of steel and wrap the walls, ceiling and floor with them. And possibly wrap the door frame with 10 ga. steel as well. Quite pricey and heavy though. And you would need a VERY experienced welder as too.

    Might be best and easier to just to buy a much larger safe. Like no2gates mentioned.
     
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