Better off to carry with none in the chamber than not at all?

[London]

I once took the Advanced Low Light Pistol course at RDI in Pleasanton. I was the only non-cop. Even though I was wearing a cover garment (unbuttoned long-sleeve shirt) so I could practice the same as how I carried, my draws were a good 1/2 second faster than the cops, who were using their duty holsters with various levers and crap.

That 1/2 second meant I usually had one or two rounds on target before they even shot. You're taking a big risk by assuming you'll have time to rack the slide.

 

[DoubleDuty]

I once took the Advanced Low Light Pistol course at RDI in Pleasanton. I was the only non-cop. Even though I was wearing a cover garment (unbuttoned long-sleeve shirt) so I could practice the same as how I carried, my draws were a good 1/2 second faster than the cops, who were using their duty holsters with various levers and crap.

That 1/2 second meant I usually had one or two rounds on target before they even shot. You're taking a big risk by assuming you'll have time to rack the slide.

And isn't necessary on any modern handgun. Gun in a good holster with one in the chamber.

 

[Glenn B]

I had two older double-action Colts w/ same problem.

I was replying to a prior post.

My Python has a nice transfer bar, as do all our S&W’s currently.

I had a Ruger Single Six pre-transfer bar. It was a very nice revolver in like new condition but I wound up selling it instead of tempting fate. I'd never consider carrying it. Its replacement was a New Model Single Six in stainless steel.

 

[Texan79423]

Carry my 1911 always cocked with safety on and holstered. You are face to face with a man and he grabs for you. Now you are holding him off with one arm/hand and pull your weapon with free hand now how in the hell are you going to hold off attacker and rack the slide and fire the weapon.

 

[leVieux]

Carry my 1911 always cocked with safety on and holstered. You are face to face with a man and he grabs for you. Now you are holding him off with one arm/hand and pull your weapon with free hand now how in the hell are you going to hold off attacker and rack the slide and fire the weapon.

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[Panzer1]

Isn't that what Glocks are for?

 

[texancarbine73]

Fun that this thread keeps going !
A few days ago a “short” on YouTube popped into my feed from someone saying “ if you don’t trust you/and your weapon to have one in the chamber, then your skills/comfort level with a gun are not there yet to be carrying”
There are many situations where you won’t have that extra second to react and rack, or the other hand (and I’m aware how easy is to rack a slide with one hand in a few scenarios)

 

[Axxe55]

Fun that this thread keeps going !
A few days ago a “short” on YouTube popped into my feed from someone saying “ if you don’t trust you/and your weapon to have one in the chamber, then your skills/comfort level with a gun are not there yet to be carrying”
There are many situations where you won’t have that extra second to react and rack, or the other hand (and I’m aware how easy is to rack a slide with one hand in a few scenarios)

quoted for fact!

 

[texancarbine73]

Isn't that what Glocks are for?

Simple and nothing to deactivate. Keep your trigger finger off until yada yada yada and you are golden. Always go boom. One In the chamber is the only correct path

 

[cav2108541]

I understand the vast benefits of carrying with one in the chamber and drawbacks to carrying with an empty chamber.

I understand the internal safeties that guns have and what a proper holster looks like.

Say you have a friend/family member though, that just will not carry with one in the chamber, overall, generally speaking, all things being equal, are they better off not carrying at all or carrying with no round in the chamber and training to chamber a round as needed?

* This isn't about what method is better, I acknowledged which is better. This is about carrying with no round chambered vs not carrying at all.

Maybe. I never allow a striker-fired pistol in the car unless it is in a holster and on my person. I just don't trust the things in an accident.

 

[zackmars]

Maybe. I never allow a striker-fired pistol in the car unless it is in a holster and on my person. I just don't trust the things in an accident.

You can throw a glock out of a helicopter and it wont fire.

Now a sig 320... airbags aren't going to be the only thing going off

 

[London]

Maybe. I never allow a striker-fired pistol in the car unless it is in a holster and on my person. I just don't trust the things in an accident.

You could throw a Glock off the Chrysler Building and it wouldn't detonate by any means from the pistol.

Would you allow a Colt 70 or pre-70 series 1911 in your car?

 

[texancarbine73]

Maybe. I never allow a striker-fired pistol in the car unless it is in a holster and on my person. I just don't trust the things in an accident.

Beating a dead horse here but the firing pin on a Glock is under no tension before pressing the trigger and there is a mechanical pin between the firing pin and primer as well.

 

[SARGE67]

And isn't necessary on any modern handgun. Gun in a good holster with one in the chamber.

How does a novice find a "good holster" and what does that phrase mean ?

 

[zackmars]

How does a novice find a "good holster" and what does that phrase mean ?

Something that protects the trigger and has good retention

There's tons of great IWB holsters out there. For OWB, SAFARILAND

 

[surevaliance]

Beating a dead horse here but the firing pin on a Glock is under no tension before pressing the trigger and there is a mechanical pin between the firing pin and primer as well.

 

[BlueLacy]

Always hot. I carry a 1911 or a Sig M18.
Both have built in safeties.
1911 has the grip safety and the M18 is striker fired.
Double action revolvers are good but not for me as my accuracy lacks with the long trigger pull.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

This is about carrying with no round chambered vs not carrying at all.

Hello,

Only answering about the OP (for the ones that follow me, now I know what it does mean).

First of all, if I may, remember, if you have no round chambered, by definition, your revolver is empty.

To be serious, the situation about chambered or not chambered (that's the question, by Hamlet) is nearly the same situation that having a car empty of gasoline but with a gerican ready. Got it ?

Means, if you wear a gun, use a safe one, be safe and educated about, and always be aware and ready to draw the gun. Pay attention, when you draw the gun, it doesn't mean you have to shoot ! Situations changes constantly.

Now the deep question is : Carrying a gun or not carrying at all ?

I'm not a believer but some texts are interesting to think about, like Matthieu 24:36, 25:13 and some others that have the same meaning. Murphy's ones are interresting too. Regarding all that, I'm balancing the pros and cons about carrying.

Let's go further...

If I just want to go to the restaurant, what do I need the most ?
Answer : Cash or credit card to pay the bill.

If this restaurant is in an hostile area, what do I need the most ?
Answers : To stay safe or to "be ready for the battle" to eat in this only restaurant in town ? Let's cook or delivery !

How can I enjoy this expensive meal, with an overweight of 1.5 pound on my belt ?
Answer : Let's ask the waiter if he can keep my gun the time I eat.

...

After all this reflexion leads to the conclusion that you have to appreciate every single time of life and if your only pleasure is to do many things with your gun around, stay at home !

Just sharing my point of view form the other side of the pond.

Best regards from Switzerland

Semper Fidelis

PS : Sorry, I just realyse the OP is already ten years old, anyway, my answer is still the same.

 

[Mowingmaniac 24/7]

The 'left' visits again...

 

[seeker_two]

Hello,

Only answering about the OP (for the ones that follow me, now I know what it does mean).

First of all, if I may, remember, if you have no round chambered, by definition, your revolver is empty.

To be serious, the situation about chambered or not chambered (that's the question, by Hamlet) is nearly the same situation that having a car empty of gasoline but with a gerican ready. Got it ?

Means, if you wear a gun, use a safe one, be safe and educated about, and always be aware and ready to draw the gun. Pay attention, when you draw the gun, it doesn't mean you have to shoot ! Situations changes constantly.

Now the deep question is : Carrying a gun or not carrying at all ?

I'm not a believer but some texts are interesting to think about, like Matthieu 24:36, 25:13 and some others that have the same meaning. Murphy's ones are interresting too. Regarding all that, I'm balancing the pros and cons about carrying.

Let's go further...

If I just want to go to the restaurant, what do I need the most ?
Answer : Cash or credit card to pay the bill.

If this restaurant is in an hostile area, what do I need the most ?
Answers : To stay safe or to "be ready for the battle" to eat in this only restaurant in town ? Let's cook or delivery !

How can I enjoy this expensive meal, with an overweight of 1.5 pound on my belt ?
Answer : Let's ask the waiter if he can keep my gun the time I eat.

...

After all this reflexion leads to the conclusion that you have to appreciate every single time of life and if your only pleasure is to do many things with your gun around, stay at home !

Just sharing my point of view form the other side of the pond.

Best regards from Switzerland

Semper Fidelis

PS : Sorry, I just realyse the OP is already ten years old, anyway, my answer is still the same.