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Build or buy a rifle?

Discussion in 'Rifles' started by Higgins909, Jun 14, 2018.

  1. Lost Spurs

    Lost Spurs Active Member

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    Or, use my approach. Have like 5 or 6 that you keep stealing parts from to complete the next one in line. Then, one weekend, you realise you have 5 or 6 AR's that all need something.

    After that, go to texas gun trader and start looking for something else. Hmmm, maybe I need another com block rifle, no wait.... I need a(nother) 1911, or was it a M1A.

    Rinse and repeat....

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  2. easy rider

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    As said, I don't think you save much building it, but it's very satisfying and fun with the right tools. The only thing I might suggest is buying a barrel with a factory set gas block. Companies often won't warranty it if you install the gas block.

    One warning, you can get carried away upgrading parts and your $500-$600 rifle ends up being $1,000 or more, but then it shoots like one that is of higher quality.
     
  3. dogbone

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    There are a number of advantages to building your own. You don't have to lay out the money for all the parts at once and can fit the build speed to your budget. If you start with a low to mid quality "ready made" and decide to upgrade, you end up with a bunch of spare parts which is essentially money down the drain. Building your own lets you pick the parts you want. Buy once, cry once.

    There's also the fun doing your own assembly. You'll end up knowing more about the rifle and how things work. There is a special pride and joy you'll feel when your new baby speaks her first words.

    The only downside (or advantage, depending on your point of view) is that it is difficult to stop building rifles and the safe can quickly become overcrowded.
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  4. Dad_Roman

    Dad_Roman Active Member TGT Supporter

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    Thaaaaaaaaaaaaat^^^^^^^^^^^^^:beats:
     
  5. Andyd

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    ARs come in all different qualities. Barrel finish and quality do not only affect accuracy but also longevity. A parkerized barrel is generally not a desireable as a nitrated barrel. I have just bought a complete kit from PSA on their Father's Day sale for $379 and will use an Anderson lower that I have since a while to complete the build. Here is a pretty good kit for $419, the lower is about $50 plus transfer. With those parts you will get a rifle for less than $500 that should last for thousands of rounds and get 2 MOA.

    http://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-...rifle-kit-with-mbus-sight-set-5165447630.html

    The CAI Cetme G3 clones have a pretty bad reputation. The German military used the Cetme and HK G3 and rifles had to group 12 cm at 100 m to be accepted, better shooting ones were fitted with a Hensoldt 4x24 and used as sniper rifles. Imho the HK G3 is an ill balanced rifle.
     
  6. rman

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    after a while you realize you have enough spare parts to put together a few more rifles. the only thing in currently missing is barrels. I gave my last one to a neighbor when teaching him the ways. We were about to take a grinder to the A2 site when I said "wait a minute" and found an old PTAC barrel, gas block and I think we robbed his bushy gas tube.

    I've always said I'm not an AR guy, but after this last haul from SD I think I'm over the 10 mark.

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  7. easy rider

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    Whatever you say AR guy.
     
  8. Recon2018

    Recon2018 New Member

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    I purchased parts and realized I didn't have all the necessary tools to properly assemble my AR...so I drove down the street to the best gunsmith in town (Blackjacks in Austin), and a few days and $200 later I had a full build that didn't need any further modifications. I ended up spending $1800 total on an AR that in my opinion (partswise) is better overall than a DD MK18, for less, WITH upgrades I would have purchased for my AR anyways to run it supressed (supressed bolt from bootleg, gieselle charging handle, trigger, etc.) and the necessary muzzle device to attach my supressor (M4-2000). Overall I saved probably $500, given the upgrades I would have added, instead of buying a DD MK18 with a very similar spec. THIS IS EVEN WITH PAYING A gunsmith to assemble properly. If I had purchased the tools myself I probably could have saved $600 total.
     
  9. easy rider

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    If you are planning on upgrading from a production model it is often cheaper to build, but are you ever really done upgrading?
     
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  10. Recon2018

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    I hear you but I am simplifying my life. One AR (My "MK18" pistol custom build that I completed), and one longish range toy (will only ever have one...most likely .308 or 6.5 creed) to practice with for fun, and possibly casual hunting with friends. Still haven't decided if it will be a bolt gun or semi auto.

    *BTW my AR SPECS: Aero Prec. upper + lower, Noveske 10.5'' barrel + carbine length gas tube, AAC muzzle break (blast protection for Supressor baffels, running 100% supressed), geiselle SD3g trigger, geiselle rail, geiselle gasbuster style charging handle, bootleg supressed bolt carrier, magpul grip, SB brace, LAW FOLDER (awesome), EOTECH 552 (like 10+ years old BEAST with replaced internals, cuz they melted), and DD front and rear Irons.

    Selling a 16'' ATX Armory AR rifle with leupold 1-4x VXR Patrol Firedot + Leupold base. Sweet rifle but don't need it and won't shoot it as much as my MK18 so why have it.

    If I ever go hunting "big game" which I have dreamed of in the past, I'll just buy a gun for the trip, then sell it.

    And i'm selling most of my pistols off. (Keeping G19, VP9, G21 (want to sell it but I just shoot it too well), and G43)

    Too much stuff to spend money on and I built my "FINAL" AR15 and I am totally happy with it. Just going to spend money on ammo and replacing parts that break. If AR Pistols become outlawed due to some ATF shenanigans, I will buy a stock and longer barrel, trip to gunsmith, and leave it be.
     


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