Bullet proof insert for kid's back pack

[roberthleeii]

I have two kids in school and was thinking about getting them some sort of plate or insert that can be placed in their back packs for some sort of safety in a tragic event like the one that happened in Florida. I know virtually nothing about armor. I have seen some inserts that are level III but those only stop handgun bullets. Is something that can stop a 5.56 going to be way to heavy and/or expensive? Any other suggestions?

 

[texasnurse]

https://www.ar500armor.com/ar500-armor-backpack-plate.html

About 8lbs




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[Mrvmax]

I can’t say I’ve used any but I know this brand and they seem to have a good rep. This one is 8 pounds and will stop a 308. If I had kids in school I’d consider it too.
https://www.ar500armor.com/ar500-armor-backpack-plate.html

 

[Mrvmax]

https://www.ar500armor.com/ar500-armor-backpack-plate.html

About 8lbs




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You must have replied while I was typing.

 

[texasnurse]

Possibly, was researching


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[mx711yam]

Even my vests don't stop 223. However the bulletproof backpack is a fantastic idea.

 

[roberthleeii]

https://www.ar500armor.com/ar500-armor-backpack-plate.html

About 8lbs




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Wow! 8lbs sounds like a lot for my elementary school kids to lug around... I may throw a weight in their packs and see if they notice

 

[Shady]

how many kids have them on there back and not just dragging them. What are the odds the kid will have it with him in time of need.

I think its a great way to get rich selling them after a school shooting. I think the odds of a kid being shot at unless you live in a war zone is so small that its plain silly.

 

[roberthleeii]

I can’t say I’ve used any but I know this brand and they seem to have a good rep. This one is 8 pounds and will stop a 308. If I had kids in school I’d consider it too.
https://www.ar500armor.com/ar500-armor-backpack-plate.html

For some reason i feel like i have been told that the 223 penetrates better than the 308, is that true?

 

[roberthleeii]

how many kids have them on there back and not just dragging them. What are the odds the kid will have it with him in time of need.

I think its a great way to get rich selling them after a school shooting. I think the odds of a kid being shot at unless you live in a war zone is so small that its plain silly.

I agree, but this is my thinking: At least one of my kids always has his backpack with him or on his chair at school (the other I am not sure). If i can spend a couple hundred bucks for a small insurance policy that may help my kids survive a tragedy i would be dumb not to look in to it. When my kids are moving around school they have their backpack on and if they are running from fire, a shot center mass from behind would be right where this plate would be. If I can also teach my kids to hide behind the backpack in an emergency at least they would have some sort of chance at survival because there is no security at school. It has to be better than doing nothing.

I also carry a back pack at school and most places i go, i might as well look at getting one for me. 8lbs is not too bad for my 220lbs...

 

[Shady]

If you think its a good investment have at it. It is a great Idea like buying a lotto ticket or even a gun for protection the chance of ever needing it are so small but if it happens to be the day you need it then its way better to have it than not.

I also have no kids so am biased

 

[easy rider]

Whatever piece of mind is worth to you, go for it.

 

[candcallen]

I have two kids in school and was thinking about getting them some sort of plate or insert that can be placed in their back packs for some sort of safety in a tragic event like the one that happened in Florida. I know virtually nothing about armor. I have seen some inserts that are level III but those only stop handgun bullets. Is something that can stop a 5.56 going to be way to heavy and/or expensive? Any other suggestions?

Level 3 plates will stop Pretty much all rifle rounds you're likely to encounter except the M2 AP and 50 cal stuff.

The UHMWPE level 3 weighs about 3 lbs. That's the plastic like stuff. AR 500 is about 8 lbs.

The UHMWPE isn't as inexpensive as AR500 as you might guess such a high tech milk jug that can stop a rifle is.

As for 556 being harder to stop, it's the velocity at closer distances that CAN make it an issue.

 

[jjkukla]

My $0.02; kids are almost always going to have books, or at least A book, in their backpack. I say put a soft armor insert in their pack along with their books and it might suffice, while saving lbs.

 

[oldag]

But now schools are banning backpacks...

 

[oldag]

Level 3 plates will stop Pretty much all rifle rounds you're likely to encounter except the M2 AP and 50 cal stuff.

The UHMWPE level 3 weighs about 3 lbs. That's the plastic like stuff. AR 500 is about 8 lbs.

The UHMWPE isn't as inexpensive as AR500 as you might guess such a high tech milk jug that can stop a rifle is.

As for 556 being harder to stop, it's the velocity at closer distances that CAN make it an issue.

UHMW?? Wow, that must be really thick.

 

[candcallen]

UHMW?? Wow, that must be really thick.

UHMWPE 10 x 12 level 3 is a littld less than an inch and a half thick. Compared to AR500 level 3 which is about a half inch or less depending on coating.

AR 500 is about 70 bucks +/- depending on sale and manufacturers.
The UHMWPE runs 375 +/- depending on sales etc. Mostly plus.

Check out the chopping block YouTube channel. He tests cutting boards and melted milk jugs as body armor. You might be surprised at what they will stop for very little money. There are probably a dozen or more other channels that do the same testing.

 

[oldag]

UHMWPE 10 x 12 level 3 is a littld less than an inch and a half thick. Compared to AR500 level 3 which is about a half inch or less depending on coating.

AR 500 is about 70 bucks +/- depending on sale and manufacturers.
The UHMWPE runs 375 +/- depending on sales etc. Mostly plus.

Check out the chopping block YouTube channel. He tests cutting boards and melted milk jugs as body armor. You might be surprised at what they will stop for very little money. There are probably a dozen or more other channels that do the same testing.

I have used UHMW in some industrial applications. Thus my comment.

It is light, but at 1.5" thick that is pretty cumbersome.

A 12" square by 1.5" thick sheet costs $67.

 

[FireInTheWire]

I have two kids in school and was thinking about getting them some sort of plate or insert that can be placed in their back packs for some sort of safety in a tragic event like the one that happened in Florida. I know virtually nothing about armor. I have seen some inserts that are level III but those only stop handgun bullets. Is something that can stop a 5.56 going to be way to heavy and/or expensive? Any other suggestions?

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