Cali's 32-hour work week proposal

[Sasquatch]

California bill aims to shorten workweek to 32 hours for large companies

The California Chamber of Commerce called the bill a job killer.

www.abc10.com

The nutters are at it again, pushing a bill that would require employers to reduce full-time work weeks to 32 hours while maintaining 40-hours of pay, in other words, mandatory 25% pay increase on base wages.

They loons are dead set on killing small businesses or just ensuring that no one ever is hired for full time work again. Can't survive on 20 or 24 hours a week? Guess you need 2 or 3 jobs now, if you didn't already have them to survive Cali's terrible cost of living.

Lot of people say its an attention stunt to appease the far left - but I'm not as convinced. The nuts run the asylum there. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see this made into law, further pushing businesses out of Cali, and pushing more Californians out of Cali to spread their cancer to other states.

 

[OneGunTX]

But, California will continue to tax you on a 40-hour week.

 

[Sasquatch]

But, California will continue to tax you on a 40-hour week.

Yup - hence the 25% pay increase - they'll continue to get theirs.

 

[oldag]

Employers would cut pay.

 

[Sasquatch]

Employers would cut pay.

Per this bill, they can't - the pay would have to remain the same, with 20% fewer hours worked. Also consider most of the people this will effect are working for minimum wage, or close to it. Cali is one of the original $15 minimum wage states.

 

[etmo]

This is good news. When your enemy is making a mistake, never interrupt them.
This will accelerate the exodus of large employers (and thus employees) to other states, which will accelerate the bankruptcy and destruction of CA, which will reduce leftist influence in America.

 

[Sasquatch]

This is good news. When your enemy is making a mistake, never interrupt them.
This will accelerate the exodus of large employers (and thus employees) to other states, which will accelerate the bankruptcy and destruction of CA, which will reduce leftist influence in America.

Ah, but look where those Californians are going - they're going to places like Texas, Arizona, Florida and other free places - and thus they're helping to turn those areas purple / blue. The number one place people are moving to Texas from is California.

 

[Axxe55]

This is good news. When your enemy is making a mistake, never interrupt them.
This will accelerate the exodus of large employers (and thus employees) to other states, which will accelerate the bankruptcy and destruction of CA, which will reduce leftist influence in America.

The problem with that is, that exodus leads them to states like Texas, and they say they are fleeing the state because of Leftist politics, and then ultimately, they bring that California leftist mentality to Texas.

 

[CaliGunner]

California bill aims to shorten workweek to 32 hours for large companies

The California Chamber of Commerce called the bill a job killer.

www.abc10.com

The nutters are at it again, pushing a bill that would require employers to reduce full-time work weeks to 32 hours while maintaining 40-hours of pay, in other words, mandatory 25% pay increase on base wages.

They loons are dead set on killing small businesses or just ensuring that no one ever is hired for full time work again. Can't survive on 20 or 24 hours a week? Guess you need 2 or 3 jobs now, if you didn't already have them to survive Cali's terrible cost of living.

Lot of people say its an attention stunt to appease the far left - but I'm not as convinced. The nuts run the asylum there. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see this made into law, further pushing businesses out of Cali, and pushing more Californians out of Cali to spread their cancer to other states.

It'll never get out of committee.

As someone who spent 40+ years seeing California lefturd dems pass legislation, this is one that will die before it gets anywhere.

They know it will destroy the California economy, but the simple fact that they "tried" will be used as a rallying cry to get their ignorant sheep-like voter base motivated. Rinse, repeat.

 

[etmo]

pushing more Californians out of Cali to spread their cancer to other states.

We talk about this a lot, and nobody ever challenges the truth of it, but I've seen that the pendulum swings both ways.

We have friends in Central Texas who moved here from CA about 15 years ago. In those 15 years, their politics have moved a little bit to the right, but their children, now entering college, who would have grown up in the indoctrination camps of leftist CA lowest-common-denominator schools, are full-on rifle shooting, horse-riding, conservatives who spit on the ground when CA is mentioned.

Exposure leads to contamination -- both ways. I say bring 'em out here, the truth of Texas will win them over. Then they can move out of Texas and spread conservative beliefs across the nation.

 

[Sasquatch]

It'll never get out of committee.

As someone who spent 40+ years seeing California lefturd dems pass legislation, this is one that will die before it gets anywhere.

They know it will destroy the California economy, but the simple fact that they "tried" will be used as a rallying cry to get their voters motivated. Rinse, repeat.

I heard that same argument against $15 minimums, but look what happened.

We're coming up on our 2 year anniversary fleeing another lefty loony state - your former neighbor to the north. They've been in a race with Cali and Washington to see who can hurt small businesses and go further left. There were lots of bills that people said would never gain traction, that did and wound up becoming law.

 

[Lonesome Dove]

The problem with that is, that exodus leads them to states like Texas, and they say they are fleeing the state because of Leftist politics, and then ultimately, they bring that California leftist mentality to Texas.

It's Nation Wide

 

[Axxe55]

We talk about this a lot, and nobody ever challenges the truth of it, but I've seen that the pendulum swings both ways.

We have friends in Central Texas who moved here from CA about 15 years ago. In those 15 years, their politics have moved a little bit to the right, but their children, now entering college, who would have grown up in the indoctrination camps of leftist CA lowest-common-denominator schools, are full-on rifle shooting, horse-riding, conservatives who spit on the ground when CA is mentioned.

Exposure leads to contamination -- both ways. I say bring 'em out here, the truth of Texas will win them over. Then they can move out of Texas and spread conservative beliefs across the nation.

You are correct. But I personally have seen more that come from California swing the other direction, rather than embracing a Texas culture and lifestyle.

 

[CaliGunner]

We talk about this a lot, and nobody ever challenges the truth of it, but I've seen that the pendulum swings both ways.

We have friends in Central Texas who moved here from CA about 15 years ago. In those 15 years, their politics have moved a little bit to the right, but their children, now entering college, who would have grown up in the indoctrination camps of leftist CA lowest-common-denominator schools, are full-on rifle shooting, horse-riding, conservatives who spit on the ground when CA is mentioned.

Exposure leads to contamination -- both ways. I say bring 'em out here, the truth of Texas will win them over. Then they can move out of Texas and spread conservative beliefs across the nation.

Yup. Great point.

Texans would be well advised to welcome California conservatives as much as they can, because there is data to support that Texas staying red for so long is because of out-of-state conservatives coming into Texas and cancelling out the home grown "Beto's".

In my office, I manage 4 people who through casual conversation I realized are all left leaning democrats. Guess where they came from? Nope, not California.

Two were born in Houston, one was born and raised in South Austin, and one moved from Virginia.

I'm the ONLY conservative on my small development team, and I was born and raised in Southern California. Go figure.

 

[etmo]

You are correct. But I personally have seen more that come from California swing the other direction, rather than embracing a Texas culture and lifestyle.

When you say, "swing the other direction" exactly what does that mean? Are you saying they come from CA and swing to the left after arriving in TX, or that they arrive already leaning to the left? If the 2nd, I agree, but:

In my life, most people I've met do not hold hard-core political beliefs. Most Americans, even today, are somewhere in the middle politically, and can be swayed to vote for Trump or vote for Biden, often based on something trivial ("I got sick of Trump's tweets so I voted for Biden").

Thus many Americans simply reflect their surroundings, echo what they hear, go with the flow -- pick your catch-phrase. Texas, imo, is slightly different, but it's a critical difference. Texans are more proud of being Texans than say, Californians are of being Californian. This makes this state unique. Texans have a more cohesive identity. A Californian is nothing, because it could be anything. But a Texan is more likely to have a certain group of attributes than a resident of any other state.

So when that average American, middle-of-the-road politically, moves to Texas, they are very likely to encounter people like us -- very pro-2A, conservative politically, etc, etc, etc. Those average Americans will thus reflect their surroundings, and we are their surroundings, again, because Texans are a more consistent group than (eg) Arizonans or Georgians.

I think the initial influx of CA will hit left, yes, because it takes time to assimilate. But as the years go by, assimilate they will, and they'll swing right, mostly because (again) people go with the flow but also because the conservative viewpoint in America is the superior viewpoint. Nobody with a brain cell believes that men are women and all that leftist BS, but outside of Texas, the media brainwashing is 24/7. Here, we are a bastion of sanity and common sense, so we will eventually clear up the brainwashed, and prevent it in others.

Maybe an optimistic viewpoint, time will tell.

 

[CaliGunner]

I heard that same argument against $15 minimums, but look what happened.

We're coming up on our 2 year anniversary fleeing another lefty loony state - your former neighbor to the north. They've been in a race with Cali and Washington to see who can hurt small businesses and go further left. There were lots of bills that people said would never gain traction, that did and wound up becoming law.

$15 minimum wage is an easier battle to fight, especially in places like California where the COL was so high. Also restaurants simply passed the cost onto their customers (seriously, look at the price of an entrée at your average california restaurant).

Giving all workers in California an effective 20% raise instantly is madness that even California progressives won't have the stomach to pass.

But honestly, I would LOVE for them to do it because the resulting pain would be fun to watch.

 

[toddnjoyce]

Employers would cut pay.

The bill prohibits that. I kid you not.

 

[toddnjoyce]

This is good news. …

No, it’s not. If it was a good thing, my property tax burden would not have doubled and then doubled again due to nosebleed prices these asshats are paying for spec/production/tract homes. Sure that ‘helps’ me in a paper/net worth sense if it stats high when I sell, but the continued sprawl drives up land prices out in the country where I’d prefer to be because landowners know they’ll make more growing houses than farming/ranching/conserving for wildlife.

 

[Axxe55]

When you say, "swing the other direction" exactly what does that mean? Are you saying they come from CA and swing to the left after arriving in TX, or that they arrive already leaning to the left? If the 2nd, I agree, but:

In my life, most people I've met do not hold hard-core political beliefs. Most Americans, even today, are somewhere in the middle politically, and can be swayed to vote for Trump or vote for Biden, often based on something trivial ("I got sick of Trump's tweets so I voted for Biden").

Thus many Americans simply reflect their surroundings, echo what they hear, go with the flow -- pick your catch-phrase. Texas, imo, is slightly different, but it's a critical difference. Texans are more proud of being Texans than say, Californians are of being Californian. This makes this state unique. Texans have a more cohesive identity. A Californian is nothing, because it could be anything. But a Texan is more likely to have a certain group of attributes than a resident of any other state.

So when that average American, middle-of-the-road politically, moves to Texas, they are very likely to encounter people like us -- very pro-2A, conservative politically, etc, etc, etc. Those average Americans will thus reflect their surroundings, and we are their surroundings, again, because Texans are a more consistent group than (eg) Arizonans or Georgians.

I think the initial influx of CA will hit left, yes, because it takes time to assimilate. But as the years go by, assimilate they will, and they'll swing right, mostly because (again) people go with the flow but also because the conservative viewpoint in America is the superior viewpoint. Nobody with a brain cell believes that men are women and all that leftist BS, but outside of Texas, the media brainwashing is 24/7. Here, we are a bastion of sanity and common sense, so we will eventually clear up the brainwashed, and prevent it in others.

Maybe an optimistic viewpoint, time will tell.

They arrive with leftist mentality and many from my personal experiences and interactions never assimilate into a conservative mentality. Some do, but most don't.

 

[Tnhawk]

It's Nation Wide

Liberals are a cancer. I've seen their damage in Houston, Nashville, Atlanta, Denver and other cities across the Country.