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  • Axxe55

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    I don’t contest most of your assertions; but think a distinction should be made b/t private property w/o granted public access vs) private property onto which the general public is invited to enter to will. It seems that the current situation is that of a landowner having dictatorial rights over the public he had INVITED IN ! Just isn’t “right” ! leVieux
    fortunately the property owner gets to make the rules ifso simple eve a child can comprehend what you aren't able to! the guest isn't in agreement their recourse is to go elsewhere and no new laws need to be made!
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    leVieux

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    It used to be capitalism or the free market determined this. If private businesses owners were being dicks, people just quit going there.
    I would argue bodily autonomy is more at risk than gun rights regarding this, you could argue the right to defense is body autonomy as well. The whole private/public thing is a two way street. It seems the only time public has rights,
    Is when it infringes on the business owners rights, such as being forced to do something against their beliefs. But these same public/private BIG enterprises were also demanding or wanting to enforce vaxx card passes, as to keep non-jabbed folks into their business, which is an invasion of privacy as well.
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    Yes, and the “reasoning” of managers and their lobbyists is faulty in both.

    Which other enumerated CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT must we abandon in order to enter any business of other place open to the public ?

    I note that they are now attacking Roman Catholics, publicly naming its adherents as “terrorists” and “bad” in a FBI publication. This is the largest rganized religious group in the World.

    What if these places had “No Christians Allowed” or “No Free Speech Here” signs ?

    We must resist. First way is to avoid these places; second is to tell them why.

    ”Gun Free Zones” kill hundreds of innocents in the USA every year.

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    RedneckHillbilly

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    Yes, and the “reasoning” of managers and their lobbyists is faulty in both.

    Which other enumerated CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT must we abandon in order to enter any business of other place open to the public ?

    I note that they are now attacking Roman Catholics, publicly naming its adherents as “terrorists” and “bad” in a FBI publication. This is the largest rganized religious group in the World.

    What if these places had “No Christians Allowed” or “No Free Speech Here” signs ?

    We must resist. First way is to avoid these places; second is to tell them why.

    ”Gun Free Zones” kill hundreds of innocents in the USA every year.

    leVieux
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    The way I see to start to fix it, is culturally. All think I’m stupid, but kinda what the Catholics do with homeless soup kitchens, but instead outreach to people at parks and where ever. How many single moms, who will raise kids by watching the View or whatever leftist talk shows that skews women’s opinions to be liberal. She is raising the next generation of kids? Why do you think the lefties SJW are doing jobs that directly influence kids? It because their changing perception and world views. That is why I said doing public/private events gatherings where the public can actually show up. Your demonstrating even silent protest how real people live, act, believe and by influencing that to them. It causes at least the question to be asked. They are brought up with misconceptions about gun owners and Christian’s, so by the time they get of age that any impression early is set and nothing can change unless its a major life event, their political/religious (non) is already set in stone. What would happen if the church actually did some outreach?

    Heck, just making a presence would drive criminal activity down in those places. Stop dealers from peddling their crap to kids, the prostitution that goes on in some parks, all of it, just by being there having fun eating, drinking, playing music, talking, listening, and interacting with people you don’t know.
     
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    toddnjoyce

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    …When has a state accidentally published licensed carrier’s addresses, names, etc?
    June 27, 2022.

    The California department of justice admitted it had exposed the personal information of as many as hundreds of thousands of gun owners in the state, in a controversial data breach that appears of a far broader scale than the agency first reported.

     

    RedneckHillbilly

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    Call it a 2A Mens group (hot women included) lol, that we go on weekends to visit each respective community on weekends and then show up on Sunday at our churches to witness to the congregation and also give them hope and courage.
     

    leVieux

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    June 27, 2022.

    The California department of justice admitted it had exposed the personal information of as many as hundreds of thousands of gun owners in the state, in a controversial data breach that appears of a far broader scale than the agency first reported.

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    Many seriously doubt that was any “accident”.

    Meanwhile, “Pope FRANCIS” declares that one can’t be a Christian if one owns a gun; while he is surrounded by layers of guards carrying submachine guns.

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    General Zod

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    Am I the only old guy who thinks all these "reasonable" prohibition laws are nuts?
    These "geniuses" who make laws prohibiting protection of school children and good church going christians from the ability to stop evil killers are absolutely crazy. Evil is more real than ever and laws do nothing to save lives.

    Well, if you spend a few minutes reading around this forum, you'll know the answer to that question.
     

    Axxe55

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    Yes, and the “reasoning” of managers and their lobbyists is faulty in both.

    Which other enumerated CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT must we abandon in order to enter any business of other place open to the public ?

    I note that they are now attacking Roman Catholics, publicly naming its adherents as “terrorists” and “bad” in a FBI publication. This is the largest rganized religious group in the World.

    What if these places had “No Christians Allowed” or “No Free Speech Here” signs ?

    We must resist. First way is to avoid these places; second is to tell them why.

    ”Gun Free Zones” kill hundreds of innocents in the USA every year.

    leVieux
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    thinkyou have freespeech within a private establishment ?yo don'tif they don't like what you sre saying or if you get loud and belligerent, they can ask you to leave!pretty sure no one will accuse you of being the brightest crayon in in the box!
     
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    RedneckHillbilly

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    Think about it. If and when they try to lock people out of public spaces for covid or next health emergency, what are they going to do if 50-100 people without fear shows up, and stands together without fear. We cant wait for the next crisis to happen to show people courage and not be manipulated, we have to do it before they try it again. All of those people who felt they didn’t have a choice or another viewpoint or had no where to go, they will when people start connecting together and making common ground. Even if they walk away, in the back of their minds, if/when something happens, they will draw upon that.
     

    Axxe55

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    Think about it. If and when they try to lock people out of public spaces for covid or next health emergency, what are they going to do if 50-100 people without fear shows up, and stands together without fear. We cant wait for the next crisis to happen to show people courage and not be manipulated, we have to do it before they try it again. All of those people who felt they didn’t have a choice or another viewpoint or had no where to go, they will when people start connecting together and making common ground. Even if they walk away, in the back of their minds, if/when something happens, they will draw upon that.
    good luck with that happening!
     

    leVieux

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    Think about it. If and when they try to lock people out of public spaces for covid or next health emergency, what are they going to do if 50-100 people without fear shows up, and stands together without fear. We cant wait for the next crisis to happen to show people courage and not be manipulated, we have to do it before they try it again. All of those people who felt they didn’t have a choice or another viewpoint or had no where to go, they will when people start connecting together and making common ground. Even if they walk away, in the back of their minds, if/when something happens, they will draw upon that.
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    Our enemies control most of our communications now.

    We the People must unite.

    Our own government has become our most dangerous enemy.

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    RedneckHillbilly

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    good luck with that happening!
    Just takes people willing to not pay attention and go about their business. Instead of a couple mothers getting their asses handed to them in a park, It’s a bunch of good honest dudes there with them.

    With land trusts with people in good states, build our on damn parks on them… provide a place for those to escape to.
     
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    Axxe55

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    Just takes people willing to not pay attention and go about their business. Instead of a couple mothers getting their asses handed to them in a park, It’s a bunch of good honest dudes there with them.

    With land trusts with people in good states, build our on damn parks on them… provide a place for those to escape to.
    i'll repeat it slower for you!good luck with that!
     
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