CHL Almost Outted By My Niece :)

[txinvestigator]

Hope you have a good lawyer on retainer, or are wealthy enough to afford the best. Remember, no matter how well your defense explains gun slang, he still has to convince 12 people not smart enough to get out of jury duty.

Uhh, then you better not carrya gun at all. Them slick attorneys will trick them dumb jurors.

 

[Hoji]

back at ya, Scooter. By your own admission this has NOTHING TO DO with the topic at hand. Your buddy chased him down, and I am sure that is why he was tried.

It is also a 10 year old case.

And before you go calling people keyboard commandos when they disagree with you and you can offer NO proof to support your position, how about you throw your credentials out there. I'll compare mine to yours.

I can also supply EVIDENCE of mine.

Whatever champ. My info is out there as opposed to yours, which if you go to your homepage, is a bunch of first names and resumes. Wouldn't want to compromise your "operator" status.

I am the third one down.

Instructor Staff Statewide Training Academy, Inc.

Good enough for you "operator"?

 

[Longtooths]

+1

If i had told my neice it was "abs of steel" we would have had to tke her to the doctor becuase she would have busted a gut laughing at my fat ass. lol

Ditto

 

[TexasFats]

I have had more than one attorney and not a few cops tell me that, here in The Peoples' Democratic Socialist Republic of Travis County, you are almost as well off to let the bad guy kill you. If you fight back, the DA will try to ruin your life as you have known it. Travis County prosecuters don't like for ordinary citizens to defend themselves against criminals. They want you to submit to the bad guy, and, if you are still alive afterwards, be a good witness. They were among the most vehement opponents of CHL in the 1990's and of HR 1815 that passed and became law in 2007.

 

[texasyid]

My question is how is anyone going to know if you were condition 1 or 3? most witnesses aren't going to be able to testify one way or another and you are not gong to have to take the stand.

 

[Hoji]

My question is how is anyone going to know if you were condition 1 or 3? most witnesses aren't going to be able to testify one way or another and you are not gong to have to take the stand.

Valid point. I guess it would depend on whether or not you had the presence of mind to not answer questions without your attorney present.

Some people just want to talk to the police. I do not think this is a good idea if you have just been involved in a shooting. Anything you say can be used against you. You have no idea what will come out of your mouth when under that kind of stress. Practice saying I want a lawyer.

 

[Code3GT]

Good point. Travis County is pretty sneaky and IMO are anti now that I think about it. A friend of mine got arrested for reckless driving. Not sure why it was arrestible offense but I digress. He kept a handgun in his car (legally) and it was obviously confiscated and held. I asked when he got out of jail if they gave it back to him. He said no, not until the case was decided on. Well go figure, they offered him a "deal"...charges dropped if he agrees to give up the gun. Guess what...he went for it like a dumbass. In his defense, he is a marine Anyway, just an example of the BS involved here in TC.

 

[funkybassplayer]

so if he gave up the gun that he legally owned and had in his car they were going to drop all charges? what did his reckless driving charges have to do with the gun. was the gun the reason they arrested him? that sounds rediculouss

 

[Code3GT]

so if he gave up the gun that he legally owned and had in his car they were going to drop all charges? what did his reckless driving charges have to do with the gun. was the gun the reason they arrested him? that sounds rediculouss

that's what I said!! the scenario was this...him and another guy were drag racing but they couldnt get them for drag racing somehow so they nabbed them for the reckless driving. gun played NO part whatsoever. he's just an idiot and wouldnt fight it 2ndary to my advice.

 

[funkybassplayer]

i had a friend that was in a similar situation (racing, not the gun part) and they got him for "Failure to Maintain Lane".

 

[Hoji]

Good point. Travis County is pretty sneaky and IMO are anti now that I think about it. A friend of mine got arrested for reckless driving. Not sure why it was arrestible offense but I digress. He kept a handgun in his car (legally) and it was obviously confiscated and held. I asked when he got out of jail if they gave it back to him. He said no, not until the case was decided on. Well go figure, they offered him a "deal"...charges dropped if he agrees to give up the gun. Guess what...he went for it like a dumbass. In his defense, he is a marine Anyway, just an example of the BS involved here in TC.

Happens everyday in Travis county. My wife works for a criminal defense attorney{ a VERY good one iI might add} and tells me that clients{ theirs and others} take a similar deal all the time. I know someone who was offered a similar deal and he took it. Cheaper to replace the gun than to pay the court costs.

 

[JKTex]

so if he gave up the gun that he legally owned and had in his car they were going to drop all charges? what did his reckless driving charges have to do with the gun. was the gun the reason they arrested him? that sounds rediculouss

Ya, there has to be more to it. There shouldn't be any reason to take the gun in the first place as it had nothing to do with that offense....a traffic infraction.

 

[Hoji]

Ya, there has to be more to it. There shouldn't be any reason to take the gun in the first place as it had nothing to do with that offense....a traffic infraction.

Happens every day here. There is nothing more to it than TC sees it as "getting a gun off the street", especially if they have a weak case to begin with but use the threat of "making it as expensive as they can" for the defendant. This way they get a misdemeanor plea{ most times the more serious charges are dropped} and they get to say they disarmed a criminal.

Those of you who do not live here or have experience with the TC judicial system just have no idea. It is not really Texas here.

 

[TexasHK]

I carry a 1911 in the C&L manner, and if one were to get into a shooting, who is going to know how you carried it once the business end is pointing down range. Once it is drawn, no one really cares (in reality) any more how it was in the holster. All anyone is going to be concerned with now is that you have armed yourself.

If anyone has issue with that...then as most of you have said, they must be in Austin...but I tend to live by the theory that, "It is better to be tried by 12 than to be carried by 6."

 

[JKTex]

Happens every day here. There is nothing more to it than TC sees it as "getting a gun off the street", especially if they have a weak case to begin with but use the threat of "making it as expensive as they can" for the defendant. This way they get a misdemeanor plea{ most times the more serious charges are dropped} and they get to say they disarmed a criminal.

Those of you who do not live here or have experience with the TC judicial system just have no idea. It is not really Texas here.

My point though, is that if it was simply a traffic infraction, they wouldn't have any legal basis for confiscating a legally owned hand gun that was not in his possession in an illegal manner.

If so, they could also confiscate his spare tire, or back seat. And if they did, it's a separate issue than the traffic infraction and in effect, based on what we're being told, they illegally took possession of his property only to offer to drop the traffic infraction if they could keep it.

Any lawyer worth their salt will go after each unrelated issue. The illegally seizing property, then the traffic infraction. But again, there's more than likely more to the traffic infraction story. Austin or not. State laws are laws.

But then again, this has nothing to do with "CHL Almost Outted By My Niece" WhichI'm still trying to figure out. How does anyone discover a CHL that's as small as a DL or credit card, unless it's pinned to their shirt?

 

[Hoji]

I carry a 1911 in the C&L manner, and if one were to get into a shooting, who is going to know how you carried it once the business end is pointing down range. Once it is drawn, no one really cares (in reality) any more how it was in the holster. All anyone is going to be concerned with now is that you have armed yourself.

If anyone has issue with that...then as most of you have said, they must be in Austin...but I tend to live by the theory that, "It is better to be tried by 12 than to be carried by 6."

Well, they would interview everyone you know for starters, and anyone who knows you will tell them. { Yes they will ask what condition you carry in} They would also just have to look here and see it in your own words.

You may just tell them yourself if you have the notion that the police are your friend while they are investigating a shooting.


I do not disagree with carrying C&L but ,depending on where you live, {or are travelling to}you might want to rethink your primary carry, or at least the condition in which you carry.