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    yeah because kicking your shoe at an officer and mouthing her smart ass at him wasn't classified as assault...

    she assaulted him clear as day, and i can guarantee she was running her mouth before and/or during....

    police deserve respect, when it is CLEARY not given you get what you give...

    was it a little too far... you can't tell from the video angle, she might have had him by the nuts and he was going for her head to let him go...

    the news side of these things is never biased towards the officer, only the innocent little 15 y/o girl ( that did something bad enough to be in jail in the first place...)


    Are you serious? I understand wanting to stand up for your fellow police officers but damn, that is way over the line. She barely flicks her shoe at him, it hardly even makes it out of the doorway. If we get to see the hallway view I bet the shoe doesn't even touch the officer. The don't even go in until four seconds after that, they must have really felt threatened by the shoe.

    And a fifteen year old gear mouthing off classifies as assault? Next time a young teenager mouths off to me I'll be sure to remember that it's justified for a grown ass man to punch the kid in the face twice and throw her to the ground by her hair. Is that how they taught you in police academy to stand up handcuffed suspects? By the hair?
     

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    was it a little too far... you can't tell from the video angle, she might have had him by the nuts and he was going for her head to let him go...

    I don't know what video you watched, but on this video angle you can clearly see she doesn't have him by the nuts. She turns away from the officer and is getting hit from behind. And her hands are clearly out in front of her as she attempts to brace for impact against the wall she is about to get face planted into.
     

    45tex

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    Thousands upon thousands of Policemen do their duty every day 24/7. One gets out of hand and they are all bad, and too stupid to do a job you are not brave enough to do. When you are willing take the abuse until your head is going to explode, come back and talk to me. Until then continue living via you tube.
    Washington state is one of those socialist encampments that celebrate fools like this chick. There is an old adage that says "An officers peace cannot be disturbed," but the shoe is assault even in Washington's leftest law book. Did he go to far probably but he was not alone so did she. The best thing that could come from this is her parents beat her ass until she does not want to be arrested anymore or assault the Police. But that won't happen and she will be a poster child and the officer will end up doing something else for a living.
    Did you notice how what she was arrested for was never mentioned in the story. The fact that she may be a criminal puke is always left out. No she is just a poor 15 year old that is undoubtedly stupid as a rock. Her parents need some jail time for failing to teach her to not break the laws or throw shoes at Policemen. IMHO
     

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    i'm not a LEO, yet...

    /snip/

    ...they need to have some sense knocked into them

    And let's hope with your "tude," youngster, you never will be.

    You say you have some daughters. Well just so happens I was a Drill Sergeant for a few years. How would you react if I drove one of your daughters up into a brick wall because she was "lippy?" How about a couple punches to the back of the head after I zip-cuffed her? Hauled her up by her hair?

    Holy crap, if we could've beat the sh!t out of every iraqi that called us names on a patrol...

    You don't need a license to carry, you need therapy.

    "Verbally assaulted?" Whatever. You have a lot of maturing to do, guy.
     

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    Did you notice how what she was arrested for was never mentioned in the story. The fact that she may be a criminal puke is always left out.

    I don't care if she was arrested for spraying painting "fag" on the cop's car. Determination of guilty or innocence is up to a court. Sentencing is a judge's job. Until then, she is innocent. Plain and simple. Not a cop's job to pass sentence.
     

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    do a job you are not brave enough to do.

    Every farmer, fisherman, and public accountant should hang their head in shame. F-ing Wussies!

    Now don't get me wrong, I've met my fair share of people that needed a beating. Some were MUCH smaller than me too.

    However, those two cops, you, and I, will have to agree to disagree on what constitutes bravery, decency, and responsibility.
     

    txinvestigator

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    You all know I am a strong LEO supporter, but this officer (from all we can see and the information we have available) was out of line and behaved in an illegal manner.

    He will pay.

    That said, I don't see threads here about other people from other professions behaving illegally or badly. Nor do I see threads about the wonderful, brave and good things that officers do.

    For some of you, your prejudice is showing.
     

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    You obviously have not seen my other posts on public policy, politicians, political correctness, etc.. I don't think I have been overly disrespectful towards LEO til now...


    /rant on

    I do view the police in the same light as bullies and wife beaters.

    I avoid the police like the plague. My defense? I obey the law. Also, I avoid charity work, socializing, or even standing on a street corner when a LEO is present. The only place I knowingly visit, where they are present, is the shooting range and the bank.

    Am I ashamed of my prejudice? No. Do I expect you to agree with me? No.

    /rant off


    What would you have thought if the 2nd cop physically attacked, or even shot, the 1st cop for his actions? What are we to think about the 2nd cop not stopping the 1st cop?

    In the end, wrong is wrong. What happened to that girl was wrong. Being a police officer gives you no right to break the public trust.
     

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    A lot of anti-cop rhetoric but few willing to don the uniform and go into the dark scary places after the bogie man. Until you have walked a mile in my shoes STFU!

    With that off my chest, It certainly appears the officer was wrong. IF that tells the whole story or at least a substantial part of the story, the officer should be prosecuted and given counceling for his anger management issues while he is serving about 10 years.
     

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    You obviously have not seen my other posts on public policy, politicians, political correctness, etc.. I don't think I have been overly disrespectful towards LEO til now...
    1. I did not refer to you, did I? 2. Funny that you would think YOUR posts would somehow stand out.


    /rant on

    I do view the police in the same light as bullies and wife beaters.
    And I view those who say those things in the same categories as morons who have a problem with authority and have an extremely juvenile point of view.




    In the end, wrong is wrong. What happened to that girl was wrong. Being a police officer gives you no right to break the public trust.
    You are right. The officer will be prosecuted and lose his job. What more do you want?

    And I expect that you will be consistent and not call the police if you are ever victimized.
     

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    you don't disrespect ANY officer of the law regardless of the situation.

    I can think of a few incidents locally were an officer's actions warranted disrespect. Granted those few incidents are infrequent compared to the total volume of service, but that doesn't mean they get a free pass "regardless of the situation."

    I have interacted with many more likable and level headed cops than d-bags, but that doesn't mean they aren't out there.

    But anyways, this thread got off track. We were talking about THIS officer in THIS incident.
     

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    My oldest daughter is a LEO in Memphis TN. and some of the stories she tells are just unlivable about kids these days.
    I did not watch the video because the whole story is not there, only what someone wanted you to see.
    I can say without any question that too many kids these days have no home training. They have no respect for any kind of authority.
    I don't know what truly transpired in this case but I will say that LEO are human and there are days just like everyone else when enough is enough and bad things can happen.
    If it was an unjustified beating on the part of the LEO, then he /she will have to face the judge just like anyone else.
    To draw a conclusion by a video without full and complete details is ludicrous.
     

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    Never mind, I don't even care anyways. I'm not gonna start talking about hypothetical situations. This officer did what he did and we will see how the people in charge rule on his actions.
     

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    An Officer has a job to do, and it's not to teach anyone a lessons or school kids on respect. As a professional, they should be thick skinned enough to ignore verbal blabbering.

    She was obviously a disrespectful little snot that needs an education and an attitude adjustment. Flipping her shoe wasn't any kind of threat, no matter what names she had called them before. If prior to this she had committed some kind of assault, that should have been addressed when it happened not when she flipped her shoe. Take the other shoe and anything else she had that she could throw, sure. Even rushing her into the wall into the corner was out of line.

    I agree, he'll lose his job, she'll win the civil case and she'll probably end up in the hospital or dead from someone else kicking her ass or taking her out on the street. Or, she'll learn a lesson and straighten out. But the treatment by the officer was not justified at all.
     

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    An Officer has a job to do, and it's not to teach anyone a lessons or school kids on respect. As a professional, they should be thick skinned enough to ignore verbal blabbering.

    She was obviously a disrespectful little snot that needs an education and an attitude adjustment. Flipping her shoe wasn't any kind of threat, no matter what names she had called them before. If prior to this she had committed some kind of assault, that should have been addressed when it happened not when she flipped her shoe. Take the other shoe and anything else she had that she could throw, sure. Even rushing her into the wall into the corner was out of line.

    I agree, he'll lose his job, she'll win the civil case and she'll probably end up in the hospital or dead from someone else kicking her ass or taking her out on the street. Or, she'll learn a lesson and straighten out. But the treatment by the officer was not justified at all.


    100% on the money
     

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    Thousands upon thousands of Policemen do their duty every day 24/7. One gets out of hand and they are all bad, and too stupid to do a job you are not brave enough to do. When you are willing take the abuse until your head is going to explode, come back and talk to me. Until then continue living via you tube.
    Washington state is one of those socialist encampments that celebrate fools like this chick. There is an old adage that says "An officers peace cannot be disturbed," but the shoe is assault even in Washington's leftest law book. Did he go to far probably but he was not alone so did she. The best thing that could come from this is her parents beat her ass until she does not want to be arrested anymore or assault the Police. But that won't happen and she will be a poster child and the officer will end up doing something else for a living.
    Did you notice how what she was arrested for was never mentioned in the story. The fact that she may be a criminal puke is always left out. No she is just a poor 15 year old that is undoubtedly stupid as a rock. Her parents need some jail time for failing to teach her to not break the laws or throw shoes at Policemen. IMHO

    You might have detected a slight bit of harshness in my tone last night. For this I apologize. The Officers did in fact go too far. For many years I stood before my chief explaining that I did not say or do what someone accused me of. Always guilty until proven innocent. And guilty still due only to the fact that somebody complained. I was one of the few that welcomed the idea of cameras in cars and the station. Anyway we don't know the whole story.
     

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    This officer was clearly excessive, which is readily apparent due to the video. That being said, it amazes me the pure and utter bullshit that police have to deal with every day. I mean it just boggles my mind why someone would try to provoke an officer, regardless of the outcome. There must be some hidden subset of the population out there that I just don't know about, that all enjoy taking taser rides, clearing out their sinuses with a little pepper spray inhalation, and or getting much deserved beatdowns. ;)
     

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    Say... Why did the police stop referring to themselves as "peace officers?"

    I know it sounds like the opening line of a joke, but it's a serious question.
     

    txinvestigator

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    Say... Why did the police stop referring to themselves as "peace officers?"

    I know it sounds like the opening line of a joke, but it's a serious question.

    Stop? My dad was a "peace officer" from the mid '50s to the late '70s. I never heard him refer to himself or other Troopers as a Peace Officer. He was with DPS, and they were Highway Patrolmen.

    As I met local officers they were either "police" or "deputies" depending on the agency. When I became a cop, we used the same terms.

    Peace Officer is a term used in the Code of Criminal Procedures to define the jobs licensed under the Texas Commission on Law Enforcement Officer Standards and Education (TCLEOSE) It is a broad term to include those licensed under TCLEOSE.

    When I was with a TABC agent off duty and we had to intervene in an assault, we both identified ourselves as "police". Everyone knows what that means. To say, "stop, Peace Officer", would not have the impact on most as, "stop, police".
     
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