Coronavirus Epidemic, Part 2

[Vaquero]

Mom, 86 and in a nursing home, had Covid earlier this month. 10 days in quarantine and a negative test and she's doing fine. She never even felt bad.
Now the nursing center and state want her to be vaccinated. Why? Doesn't she now have antibodies?
I'm thinking it's all about money and control.

 

[oldag]

I'm thinking it's all about money and control.

Surely not.

 

[ZX9RCAM]

Mom, 86 and in a nursing home, had Covid earlier this month. 10 days in quarantine and a negative test and she's doing fine. She never even felt bad.
Now the nursing center and state want her to be vaccinated. Why? Doesn't she now have antibodies?
I'm thinking it's all about money and control.

Glad to hear she's ok.

 

[sidebite252]

My MIL is 80, in good health, and lives in a retirement village. She got the 1st round of the Moderna vaccine this morning. Her 86 yr old neighbor died of COVID last week & another lady across the hall is in quarantine and so far negative (not related to the death but her daughter has COVID now).

We’ll see how this all unfolds.

 

[jrbfishn]

Mom, 86 and in a nursing home, had Covid earlier this month. 10 days in quarantine and a negative test and she's doing fine. She never even felt bad.
Now the nursing center and state want her to be vaccinated. Why? Doesn't she now have antibodies?
I'm thinking it's all about money and control.

That is good news. Found out Christmas day that my sister had it. Bad heart and asthmatic but she is doing ok so far. The asthma meds help her a lot.

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[TheDan]

The asthma meds help her a lot.

Helps you get over lots of different respiratory infections, too.

 

[jrbfishn]

Helps you get over lots of different respiratory infections, too.

I had something this last fall that is seriously messing with my lungs. If I get the machine to use it, she offered to share some albuterol with me. She said Amazon has some good ones for about $30 and the doctor gives her as much as she needs.
I'm thinking of taking her up on the offer.

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[toddnjoyce]

Mom, 86 and in a nursing home, had Covid earlier this month. 10 days in quarantine and a negative test and she's doing fine. She never even felt bad.
Now the nursing center and state want her to be vaccinated. Why? Doesn't she now have antibodies?
I'm thinking it's all about money and control.

The nursing home is following CDC guidelines (which is a good thing, actually) by offering the vaccine.

“COVID-19 vaccination should be offered to you regardless of whether you already had COVID-19 infection. You should not be required to have an antibody test before you are vaccinated.

However, anyone currently infected with COVID-19 should wait to get vaccinated until after their illness has resolved and after they have met the criteria to discontinue isolation.

Additionally, current evidence suggests that reinfection with the virus that causes COVID-19 is uncommon in the 90 days after initial infection. Therefore, people with a recent infection may delay vaccination until the end of that 90-day period if desired.”

Frequently Asked Questions about COVID-19 Vaccination

FAQs about COVID-19 vaccines, vaccine cost, availability, and types.

www.cdc.gov

Lots of soft language there...I’ve asked this question of a few people with the knowledge and experience whom I trust and the general responses have been mild cases may not trigger a strong immune response. The other thing to keep in mind is we just don’t have the time under the belt to know how long immunity (either natural or vaccinated) will last. Could end up being like flu or tetanus with recurring ‘boosters’ needed.

One interesting thing that keeps cropping up is that there seems to be certain traits more susceptible to worse disease outcomes than others...not just the co-morbidities, but genetic makeup is thought to be a player...just not much research has been focused on that yet. Probably won’t be looked at closely for a while. They’ve also mentioned there’s a subset of mild cases that, a few months later, erupt into cardiomyopathy and other cardiac complications. Not a good thing and the vax ain’t gonna help if you’ve already had it.

COVID-19 and Heart Failure With Preserved Ejection Fraction

This Viewpoint discusses the emerging apparent association between COVID-19 and heart failure with preserved ejection fraction (HFpEF), and speculates on the pathophysiology and shared risk factors that may underlie the association and the possibility that SARS-CoV-2 infection may unmask or...

jamanetwork.com

 

[DubiousDan]

They’ve also mentioned there’s a subset of mild cases that, a few months later, erupt into cardiomyopathy and other cardiac complications.

When I was in the hospital in October they did a series of cardiac enzymes which fortunately were normal and my Cardiologist has me scheduled for an Echo-cardiogram on Feb 1. Fingers crossed.

 

[DubiousDan]

My wife just tested positive. Odd that she didn't get it when I had it.

 

[kbaxter60]

What is the difference of paying to get the vaccine or being a politician and getting it first?

In A, you pay money to get it.
In B, you GET PAID to get it.

 

[candcallen]

This is all in Phoenix.

Well most of my family in AZ got it. Dad step mom and sister never even got a fever. Sister was sick for a couple hours. Their complaints are just fatigue. They are on day ten. Dad is 80 and still did his treadmill every day thru it.
They got it at church as most of the regular leadership got it. They are on day 10 or so. Church will resume a week from sunday.


My mom, the nutcase she is...god forgive me, just tested positive. She is in an assisted living facility that's mixed with independent living. They locked it down and everyone tested negative but they let the independent living people go out of town for Thanksgiving and Christmas and they share parts of a building elevators cafe and store/market. So someone got it and brought it back and now there is a huge outbreak. They think it's the super contagious version. But remember just because it's super contagious doesn't mean it more severe or dangerous as there is no difference in hospitalization or deaths from thus version and the vaccine still works for it. Infact they said people seem to be getting not as symptomatic from this version. For what that's worth.

Mom is 71 in a week.


All anecdotal but the virus seems to be attenuating.

 

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[TheDan]

I had something this last fall that is seriously messing with my lungs. If I get the machine to use it, she offered to share some albuterol with me.

I've never tried a nebulizer. I just use an inhaler.

 

[dsgrey]

They think it's the super contagious version. But remember just because it's super contagious doesn't mean it more severe or dangerous as there is no difference in hospitalization or deaths from thus version and the vaccine still works for it. Infact they said people seem to be getting not as symptomatic from this version. For what that's worth.

I read yesterday where the chance of getting the "normal" version when exposed was just under 10% and the "super contagious" was around 15%. I think it was some CDC article but I'm too lazy to find it again.

 

[jrbfishn]

I've never tried a nebulizer. I just use an inhaler.

I haven't either but I'm giving it some serious thought.

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[Mowingmaniac 24/7]

In times gone by, the CDC was almost a hallowed institution that has morphed into yet another 'leftist' crap hole of lies and confusion.

Whatever bs they put out should be viewed as political nonsense as the left hand doesn't know what the other 'left' hand is doing...I ignore their bleating bs...

 

[toddnjoyce]

In times gone by, the CDC was almost a hallowed institution that has morphed into yet another 'leftist' crap hole of lies and confusion.

Whatever bs they put out should be viewed as political nonsense as the left hand doesn't know what the other 'left' hand is doing...I ignore their bleating bs...

Depends on the mission. For this one, CDC was the proverbial square peg.

 

[Dougw1515]

Once the left figured out the CDC had: influence, some degree of "power" to shape dialog and could control large swaths of populations with their policies, it was only a matter of time before they further corrupted an already corrupt entity.