Coronavirus Epidemic, Part 2

[Axxe55]

And building off of this comment, it's also impossible to put a number on how many people have had it but were never tested which could be quite large. Lot's of stories about people who believe they've had it, test positive for antibodies but never showed symptoms (asymptomatic). To further muddy the waters the number of people who actually died of COVID verses those that died of other causes who happened to have covid at the same time is not available as it isn't tracked that way. There is so much garbage in the reporting of covid positive cases (multiple reportings of the same individual etc.) that the numbers we do have are not really credible. So, using population was a simplifying assumption which I tried to anchor the analysis to SOMETHING. The deaths numbers are suspect for the reasons previously stated but I thought using the TOTAL deaths was a simplifying assumption as well. Realizing that the year isn't over yet the .04% is a bit underreporting the actual, but considering the problems in all the other data sets, I don't believe it's crazy.

Using the number of the population is somewhat of a stable number, but it leads to a false and misleading outcome of the numbers. In simple terms, it is not an accurate indicator in the least possible way.

 

[Dougw1515]

In all fairness, he did say GREATLY!

Yup.... Urban dictionary Greatly = over n' over 'n over, over...

 

[oldag]

exaggerated...?

A most tactful word for being lied to over and over and over...

I have been told that my tact and diplomacy are slipping as I get older, so I have been trying to work on that...

 

[Axxe55]

I have been told that my tact and diplomacy are slipping as I get older, so I have been trying to work on that...

Well, it almost worked!

 

[Dougw1515]

I am sure you believe you understand what you think I said but I am not sure you realize that what you heard wasn't what I meant!

 

[toddnjoyce]

Is the stupid mask order lifted?

No.

 

[roadkill]

Was I only the one to come away with his vaccine comment to mean that until we have a vaccine we will not open back up 100%? He didn’t say it but it sure sounded that way.

 

[oldag]

No.

Well, I guess I will have to continue my civil disobedience of the unconstitutional EO.

 

[rotor]

If you're trying to determine the percentage of covid deaths relative to the population - you use population numbers. If you're trying to determine the percentage of covid deaths vs the number of covid cases - yeah well... good luck with that futile exercise. Even the CD's/population it so skewed it makes picking the winning lottery number seem easy.

That's why I asked what was the poster trying to prove. CV deaths have a low number .05% of the population. So what? There are only two figures that count, the mortality rate and the infection rate. Rabies has a mortality rate of almost 100%. I would imagine the infection rate if untreated is almost 100% too. Thankfully we have treatment. With CV, I want to know what are my chances of dying and what are my chances of getting it in a chance encounter. Regular measles has one of the highest infection rates and a mortality rate of less than 1%. Fortunately most of us have had the vaccine for measles although I had the disease as a kid (pre vaccine) and was in the hospital for a week. I almost died. What we all want to know is how easily we can get CV (apparently it is easily acquired) and if we get it what chances we have of dying. The ratio of CV deaths to the state population means nothing. At the beginning of a pandemic that could be low and at the end of a pandemic that number could be high. The day the first person in Texas died of CV that was 1 X 100/29,000,000 which of course is a meaningless figure. We all know that "statistics" can prove anything.

 

[MacZC7]

A true mortality rate is difficult due to the data.

1. The number of deaths is GREATLY exaggerated.
2. The number of infections is unknown, because so many people have no ill effects and are never tested.

The best estimate is probably the cruise ship. No one allowed on, no allowed off. Everyone exposed. 3600 people, 7 deaths. 0.19%, on par with the flu even though treatment really had not been well developed at that time.

Half a year later and we’re still all speculating...even the “scientists”. How the hell are they fast tracking an effective and safe vaccine for a virus that we still know so little about? Or do they know something we don’t and are just withholding that precious knowledge bomb until after the election?

 

[MacZC7]

Yup.... Urban dictionary Greatly = over n' over 'n over, over...

Almost the definition of insanity!

 

[kbaxter60]

Pssst, it'll NEVER be over.

Pssst, it was ALWAYS over.
It's up to us to decide how we want to live.

 

[JohnSo]

Pssst, it was ALWAYS over.
It's up to us to decide how we want to live.

100% Agree

 

[RoadRunner]

 

[kbaxter60]

So, the wife showed me the latest "conspiracy theory" on FB this morning. It's this:

* If you go to Google and type "nnn new cases" using any three-digit number. It will always come up with a number of stories matching that number exactly. Interestingly, for me, it came up with local stories....Texas cities and such.
* Snopes (don't trust) says it is "False". And claims that with the numbers we are seeing, it is no mystery that we have "hit" every three digit number already. Now, I believe this may be truth, but...
* If you go to Bing and try the same, you do not get the same results. It comes up with more stories on the "three digit consipiracy". Try it with your own favorite non-Google engine.

Summary: I think Google is cooking the results. Change my mind.

 

[Dougw1515]

Summary: I think Google is cooking the results. Change my mind.

LOL... Ya' think????

 

[Fishkiller]

 

[MacZC7]

So, the wife showed me the latest "conspiracy theory" on FB this morning. It's this:

* If you go to Google and type "nnn new cases" using any three-digit number. It will always come up with a number of stories matching that number exactly. Interestingly, for me, it came up with local stories....Texas cities and such.
* Snopes (don't trust) says it is "False". And claims that with the numbers we are seeing, it is no mystery that we have "hit" every three digit number already. Now, I believe this may be truth, but...
* If you go to Bing and try the same, you do not get the same results. It comes up with more stories on the "three digit consipiracy". Try it with your own favorite non-Google engine.

Summary: I think Google is cooking the results. Change my mind.

This is old news. You can go as high as a six digit and it still works. Hmmm

 

[Dinoble1]

So, the wife showed me the latest "conspiracy theory" on FB this morning. It's this:

* If you go to Google and type "nnn new cases" using any three-digit number. It will always come up with a number of stories matching that number exactly. Interestingly, for me, it came up with local stories....Texas cities and such.
* Snopes (don't trust) says it is "False". And claims that with the numbers we are seeing, it is no mystery that we have "hit" every three digit number already. Now, I believe this may be truth, but...
* If you go to Bing and try the same, you do not get the same results. It comes up with more stories on the "three digit consipiracy". Try it with your own favorite non-Google engine.

Summary: I think Google is cooking the results. Change my mind.

Read this book a few years ago. A couple of interesting chapters about google and their A I searches. It’s what they want you to see.
All about control.

 

[Dougw1515]

Read this book a few years ago. A couple of interesting chapters about google and their A I searches. It’s what they want you to see.
All about control.

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