Dealing with Reloaders who are "Dirtbags"

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  1. TexasJoe

    TexasJoe New Member

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    As you might imagine I have had to clean up my language quite a bit for this posting. After yet another unsuccessful tip to the shooting supply store (looking for primers) I decided to write this post and share some frustration. Most people that reload do it for various reasons like getting stable loads or saving costs. There are however a very small number of reloaders taking advantage of the rest of us. They will be referred to as "Dirtbags" from here on out. I am of course referring to the handful of Dirtbags that are buying primers by the thousands, and then trying to sell them on line for 5 - 10 times what they paid for them. People who are trying to take advantage of us during hard times are definitely Dirtbags and border on criminal. I have written to CCI and other primer manufacturers and they have assured me they put on additional staff to try and produce more but to no avail. As long as people but them up 5 and 10 thousand at a time the rest of us are pretty much hosed. I hate to see it, but some of the local shooting supply stores are starting to impose "limits" on the number you can buy. Here is my answer to the problem. DO NOT buy second hand primers on-line. Make the Dirtbags sit on the primers they bought till they rust away to nothing. As long as people give in and pay their outrageous prices they will continue to profiteer off of us. Now I understand this is America and people like to make a profit, but enough is enough. Lets stand together and force these Dirtbags to stop trying to gouge us just because they think they can. Thanks for reading. :hammerhead:

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  2. TSU45

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    There really aren't that many primers for sale on Gunbroker. I think people are hoarding for their own reserves.

    Where are you and what do you need? I might be able to sell you some.....at the right price. :happy0001:
     
  3. MadMo44Mag

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    I'm with ya all the way. Yes you are being kind calling them dirtbags!
    C**Cksuckers is more what I had in mind.:332:
    I have waited in line for some CKR to buy every last primer in the place.
    Not just small pistol but tell the sale clerk "I'll take all the primers you have"
    and just smile and pay, walk out with arm fulls of primers.:332:
    Luckily most store around here now have a 1k limit per day per customer.
     
  4. usmcpmi

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    I'd like to know where there are primers available over the counter....let alone "thousands" Still looking for some LP and LR primers.....MG
     
  5. TexasJoe

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    As far as Over the counter, if your there when the shipment arrives, Gander Mountain, 10-Ring or others will have them. I found it easier to go to Midway.com and click on the "Notify me when they arrive" button. I check my e-mail daily and it takes about a week or two but they will notify you when the primers reach receiving. (1000 Small Pistol Primers = $29.00). The problem is that the Dirtbags are watching to and the last shipment Midway got in a couple days ago was gone within an hour. Again, people buying 5 - 10 thousand at a time. If you respond directly to the mail they will have them. Problem there is having to pay HazMat fees. It's not bad if you are ordering power and stuff to but if your just getting primers the HazMat fee is more than the primers. Good Luck
     
  6. JKTex

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    :rofl: Another anti-free market post. How cute. :devil:

    It might suck for the buyer that can't find them, but you have an equal chance to buy, just as they do.

    You're doing the right thing to make a change, don't buy from them, but the ranting and whining does no good. That's the other side of the free market, the buyer who can choose to not buy from a particular source which will force that source to change course.

    By the way, multi-posting the same thread right out of the registration gate doesn't look good on a new member. It makes it look as though you joined only to SPAM a forum with your rant.
     
  7. glock9

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    I am not one of the dirtbags and only buy primers for my own use. Before the Kenyan screwed us all, it was common for our shooting club to order 200k primers at a time with each shooter buying 5k - 20k so we could save on the shipping and hazmat fee.

    Now in our new wonderful socialist world you are lucky to find any primers and if you do the dirbags want $50/k where we used to pay $12/k when we bought in bulk.

    Midway limits you to 5k per order plus you still have to pay shipping and hazmat.

    I've received 5 of their email notifications and even though I have them on my speed dial and called immediatly I was only able to make one purchase because they were already sold out when the notification arrived.

    The one order I was able to make was for 5k of small rifle primers and with the shipping and fees it cost $36/k.

    I really needed small and large pistol primers too and will gladly pay the their price but would much rather have the option to by 5k of sm, 5k of sp, and 5k of lp and pay one shipping and one hazmat but the dirtbags have ruined it for all of us.

    Glock9
     
  8. MadMo44Mag

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    I don't mind the hazmet frees when ordering primers and powder at the same time cause I buy 4lbs + of powder at a time but some times buying enough primers at the same time is cost prohibitive. (poor city guy here)
    Right now I would be happy with 1000 small and a 1000 large pistol primers.
    That would make me very happy till I need more in a couple of months.
     
  9. TexasJoe

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    JKTex, THe double post was an issue where I posted in the wrong area, got my head on straight and then posted it correctly. Im will look for a way to remove the other one. Anyway, I do not consider this ranting. I posted an issue that I feel is a problem for the majority of us and I proposed a solution. That is the Marine Corps way. While I agree that people should not be restricted from buying and selling at a profit, intentional price gouging at the expense of others is not acceptable to me. I believe in a free-market, but not in cases where people are intentionally and purposfully taking advantage of others during hard times. That is not the American way. Not everyone buying 5000 primers is a bad person, but if you read the rest of the replys to my post you will see there are a number of those bad people out there.
     
  10. JKTex

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    "Free market is wonderful when I'm on the winning side." :happy0001:

    It's a very popular opinion by some members. It could be renamed the "half-free market". :rofl:
     

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