? DEFENDING UKRAINE ?

[TX OMFS]

While I agree that it is not in our best interest to get directly involved, the US at the time should not have offered to "protect" them if they agree to give up their nuclear weapons. Because of this situation, the Ukrainians feel betrayed. We had no business doing that but it was done. It was foolish for us to do that and it was naive for them to agree to go through with the disarmament.

Do we really want the world to think it is foolish to trust us?

Our politicians have no problem dividing & stealing from us but they have no desire to stand by our word. Lovely.

 

[A1Oni]

I worry about Biden doing something stupid.....like getting us involved in Ukraine......

What better to distract us from all his other failures?

I know, it's stupid to think he would get us involved.....but his Administration is becoming desperate to find something they can cling to...........

....and desperate people do stupid shit............

remember when clinton bombed crumbling yugoslavia? the serbs remember.

 

[A1Oni]

Do we really want the world to think it is foolish to trust us?

Our politicians have no problem dividing & stealing from us but they have no desire to stand by our word. Lovely.

we haven't been trustworthy since WW1 if you ask me lmao.

 

[seeker_two]

we haven't been trustworthy since WW1 if you ask me lmao.

Longer than that....ask the Native Americans and the Philippines....

 

[Moonpie]

No one trusts the US.gov.
It is chiefed by the double tongues.
Even the majority of its own citizens do not trust the contemptible blue bellied scum Federals.
Why would any other nation? Look at our record since 1945.

 

[seeker_two]

No one trusts the US.gov.
It is chiefed by the double tongues.
Even the majority of its own citizens do not trust the contemptible blue bellied scum Federals.
Why would any other nation? Look at our record since 1845[/B]

FIFY.....

 

[Brains]

I'm all for assisting our allies, with the key word being assist.

I'm not on board with being the line of shields the rest of the world metaphorically hides behind. I'm also not on board with paying for it all.

 

[oldag]

Correct,

BUT,

The "USSR" was disbanded some 25 or 30 years ago and modern Russian leaders are all Christians today.

It has been quite a while since anyone over there provoked or threatened us.

We need to let the sleeping bear alone. . . . . . The regime in Kiev are the Bad Guys here, and we KNOW it.

leVieux
.

Say what???

 

[oldag]

While I agree that it is not in our best interest to get directly involved, the US at the time should not have offered to "protect" them if they agree to give up their nuclear weapons. Because of this situation, the Ukrainians feel betrayed. We had no business doing that but it was done. It was foolish for us to do that and it was naive for them to agree to go through with the disarmament.

I don't recall hearing a single person say at the time that leaving Ukraine with nukes was a good idea. Is anyone here old enough to recall what the situation was at that time?

 

[Darkpriest667]

The original capital of the Rus was Kiev, just fyi kids.

 

[Axxe55]

Getting involved in another global conflict may not be in America's best interests, but if we made promises, or obligations to another nation as means of negotiating certain agreements made, then we do need to honor them. Sometimes, things need to be done, simply because they are the right thing to do.

 

[Mowingmaniac 24/7]

Our 'alphabet people" heavy military are far more concerned with how well the uniform fits 'pregnant men' (yeah, the new norm) than actually killing enemies and breaking shit...so it's best we don't get into an actual shooting war.

 

[wiredgeorge]

I wonder if we got into it with the Ruskies and needed fresh war supplies (tanks, ships and the like) if we have enough credit left with the Chinese where we could buy this stuff.

 

[pronstar]

Best and brightest




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[Darkpriest667]

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I bet her MOS is 25L

 

[leVieux]

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Guess WHAT, little wokester bitch ?

What does the UCMJ say about uniformed Military personnel threatening U S Citizens ?

leVieux

 

[V-Tach]

Promoted...........

 

[Moonpie]

 

[leVieux]

Promoted...........

I hope not. . . . . .

 

[busykngt]

It’s an E6.

(My poor Army!)
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But really nothing that surprises me. I’ve long maintained that in a true SHTF scenario, both the military and LE would likely be “split down the middle” as to their loyalties. IMHO YMMV