Does my truck "talk" to the mothership?

[jmohme]

You might not be able to. Maybe search YouTube for ways to 'disconnect' etc...?

Whenever I disable a 'self-installed App' on my phone (because the updates let them in the door) I always get the warning message "If you disable then other functions will stop working! Danger Will Robinson!" or some horsesht like that. I'm like - good. Shut them all down, lol.

But that's just a phone. I'm sure your truck is a bit more intertwined, by design.

I get the same warning message often. I just laugh out loud hoping that the smart stupid phone hears me and reports back to its digital god.

 

[Axxe55]

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Some of the computerized “safety features” on my new JEEP actually appear DANGEROUS to me.

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try reading the owner's manual and learn how they operate and are used!

 

[John Sam Rayburn]

I decide when or if to update the other devices in my control. Phone, PC, routers, appliances. I have a user agreement that spells these choices out. I received no such agreement with my vehicle.

At some point you legally consented to it.

You just don't remember doing so.

 

[Sam Colt]

At some point you legally consented to it.

You just don't remember doing so.

Bought the truck used. Never signed FCA paperwork. No opt in when I started the truck.

My guess is that the 1st owner clicked ok. Legally that’s a gray area for subsequent owners.

 

[John Sam Rayburn]

Bought the truck used. Never signed FCA paperwork. No opt in when I started the truck.

My guess is that the 1st owner clicked ok. Legally that’s a gray area for subsequent owners.

I didn't think of that. That's an interesting point.

More and more people are getting hurt by these automated car functions.

If you didn't consent to it, the manufacturers' legal liability for hurting you might change in curious ways.

 

[Wiliamr]

1964 Chevrolet El Camino.

 

[Sam Colt]

Nightmare, I guess. And most people just back up to the lens and pull their ass cheeks apart.

I’m so tired of this crap.

If You’ve Got a New Car, It’s a Data Privacy Nightmare

Bad news: your car is a spy. Every major car brand failed a recent privacy and security test from Mozilla. You’re probably driving around in a "privacy nightmare" that may collect information as sensitive as your race, health status, and sexual activity.

gizmodo.com

 

[G O B]

My avatar is my '88 Jeep Comanche. let them try to talk to THAT.

 

[Mowingmaniac 24/7]

If you don't own or carry a so-called 'smart phone' are you less a candidate for being spied on while inside/driving your vehicle?

Or, are they still harvesting your personal information, but they aren't able to advertise to you or ...?

Anyone know?

 

[Mowingmaniac 24/7]

ok, no one has a clue...

 

[G O B]

If you need to be net silent, then do that. Most of the time the best thing anyone can do is be boring enough to ignored as uninteresting background noise.

 

[Sam Colt]

If you need to be net silent, then do that. Most of the time the best thing anyone can do is be boring enough to ignored as uninteresting background noise.

Actually, the point is that my vehicle is doing feature changes without notice or consent. Changes in how the vehicle operates can be and have been dangerous.

I want it to stop. Now.

 

[Sam Colt]

If you don't own or carry a so-called 'smart phone' are you less a candidate for being spied on while inside/driving your vehicle?

Or, are they still harvesting your personal information, but they aren't able to advertise to you or ...?

Anyone know?

New cars have interior cameras, microphones, and sophisticated telemetry. An amazing amount of information can be amassed without your smartphone being Hoovered.

 

[TheDan]

If you don't own or carry a so-called 'smart phone' are you less a candidate for being spied on while inside/driving your vehicle?

Or, are they still harvesting your personal information, but they aren't able to advertise to you or ...?

Anyone know?

Even with a basic phone every cell tower that your phone hits is logged so your movements can be tracked. All calls, text, and other data can be intercepted, too. I heard an NSA recruiter in the late 90s bragging about how he can turn the mic on in any cell phone he wanted to and listen without the person ever knowing. Doubt that capability has gone away over the years.

So no, not having a smart phone doesn't really protect you from anything other than google and facebook ads. There are ways to turn that crap off on smart phones, too.

 

[toddnjoyce]

… turn the mic on in any cell phone...

Not just cell phones. If it has a microphone and is connected to the internet, most advanced governments around the world can remotely urn it on and start recording. Without tripping any ‘mic in use’ indicators.

Tech companies are more abusive with that capability though.

 

[Lonesome Dove]

It all started with GMs "On Star"
What's in your driveway?

 

[Mowingmaniac 24/7]

The Dan,

Thanks!

If ones vehicle is old enough, that is, sans hi-tech bs, and you yank the battery out of your phone, perhaps, maybe you can't be tracked...at least as easily?

 

[TheDan]

The Dan,

Thanks!

If ones vehicle is old enough, that is, sans hi-tech bs, and you yank the battery out of your phone, perhaps, maybe you can't be tracked...at least as easily?

Kinda depends on how hard someone is looking for you. There's cameras on nearly every stoplight. Driving an older vehicle might make you stand out and be more easily tracked. Driving a very popular 5-6yo vehicle in a common color with the snitches ripped out of it would make it easier to blend in.

 

[Tnhawk]

If you don't own or carry a so-called 'smart phone' are you less a candidate for being spied on while inside/driving your vehicle?

Or, are they still harvesting your personal information, but they aren't able to advertise to you or ...?

Anyone know?

Maybe an answer will come from those performing the monitoring!

 

[Mowingmaniac 24/7]

The Dan,

Thanks again!

Looks like no matter what measures we take, big bro will still be able to monitor/track us...oy vey!