Dove hunters detained and forced to lay on 100 degree asphalt by military police

[vmax]

This happened the other day in San Angelo
Dove hunters on private land, but adjacent to the base were detained and forced to lay on hot asphalt for 30 minutes by base security.
The hunters were on private land that had been dove hunted in previous years and even informed local PD and TPWD prior to the hunt.

http://www.outdoorhub.com/news/2015...rsonnel-detain-dove-hunters-private-property/

 

[Vaquero]

Jade helm

 

[karlac]

Give an inch, they take a mile...

 

[Mike1234567]

Only public outrage will spur any actions.

 

[Shooter McGavin]

Damn, that would really suck...

 

[Charlie]

Wonder what would have taken place if one or more of the hunters were law enforcement personnel, just out for a little dove huntin'?

 

[jrbfishn]

They committed a crime off base. Really, I'm wondering why they aren't being charged. Believed threat or not, unless things have changed a lot more than I realized, once they leave base property they have no authority at all. Civilian LE should have handled it unless they crossed onto base property.

from an idgit coffeeholic

 

[peeps]

What would their jurisdiction be if the hunters were firing onto the base?

 

[Vec]

#dovehunterslivesmatter

 

[jrbfishn]

What was tge justification, period?

from an idgit coffeeholic

 

[Chupacabra Hunter]

#dovehunterslivesmatter

Don't be racist...

Allhunterslivesmatter

 

[majormadmax]

They committed a crime off base. Really, I'm wondering why they aren't being charged. Believed threat or not, unless things have changed a lot more than I realized, once they leave base property they have no authority at all. Civilian LE should have handled it unless they crossed onto base property.

from an idgit coffeeholic

Sky cops have no law enforcement authority off base, but if these individuals were considered "threats" then they may be legally able to react. To be honest, even then I don't think they have the authority to detain these hunters. If anything, the local police or sheriff's departments should have been called. I seriously doubt the hunters were shooting towards the base, it sounds like they were just on the property adjacent to the installation and the sky cops overreacted. It's happened before at Goodfellow, many years ago we had a member of our unit that was illegally detained at the gate there because he had a minor in his car (a female that was a year younger than him, he was only 18). It's a boring AETC base, no operations whatsoever...

 

[majormadmax]

Well, it looks like the above may not be the case everywhere...

http://www.infowars.com/busting-posse-comitatus-military-cops-arrest-civilians-in-florida-city/

Note that Posse Comitatus only applies to Federal troops (active duty and Reservists), Guardsmen are state assets therefore can be utilized in a law enforcement capacity...

 

[stdreb27]

What would their jurisdiction be if the hunters were firing onto the base?

Watch out for those long range shotguns with barrel extenders that can shoot hundreds of toxic pellets up to 50 yards.

 

[jrbfishn]

Maybe they were afraid someone would mistake a jet fighter for a dove. They're both kind of a grey color aren't they?

from an idgit coffeeholic

 

[tmd11111]

Sadly I live here in San Angelo and right near the base. Also I'm retired Army so yes I'm a bit embarrassed about these rent a cops

 

[peeps]

Riiight? I wonder if that recruiting they do in the malls of America are paying off by being so close to the mall ninjas.

 

[Saltyag2010]

Only public outrage will spur any actions.

Burn it down?

 

[BRD@66]

Burn it down?

Yesss! I need some new Nikes!

 

[TX69]

Give an inch, they take a mile...

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“What’s even more amazing is that our local television news was there and minutes earlier had finished filming an interview on the importance of hunting to our local economy. Appears they may have also filmed this very unfortunate event,” Simons wrote. “Seems to me that Goodfellow should provide a formal apology to some folks. I’m thankful to our local police department for intervening and providing some relief to this matter.”

And some say that our military won't fire upon us.......