End Civil Asset Theft

[OFFascist]

Good short speech by CJ Grisham on the topic at at the Republican Party of Texas State Convention.

 

[busykngt]

Sorry, I don’t do FB.

 

[pronstar]

Got a different link or the cliffs notes version?


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[oldag]

If this is on civil asset forfeiture, that is an unconstitutional practice that needs to end (at least in its current form).

 

[Mowingmaniac 24/7]

I too stay FAR away from FB.

 

[OFFascist]

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Says that it is not "civil asset forfeiture" it is "civil asset theft," government should not be stealing property without a conviction. Law enforcement should not be incentivized to steal property. The current system harms those who don't trust the financial system (those who don't keep money in banks) and now some banks don't want to do business with firearm manufactures those people could be target for civil asset forfeiture if they end up cash only businesses.

This is all being said the Republican Party of Texas Convention which is happening this week in San Antonio. There are those who are supporting a plank for the Republican Party to oppose "civil asset forfeiture/theft."

 

[TheDan]

 

[pronstar]

Civil asset forfeiture is my biggest problem with Jeff Sessions, who supports it.

It’s one of those dealbreaker issues for me.


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[benenglish]

No matter what good might come from particular incidents of civil asset forfeiture (and yes, there are some good outcomes), their rampant abuse leads me to the conclusion that they should be entirely prohibited. Get a criminal conviction on a person, though, and that's something completely different.

 

[Big Green]

No matter what good might come from particular incidents of civil asset forfeiture (and yes, there are some good outcomes), their rampant abuse leads me to the conclusion that they should be entirely prohibited. Get a criminal conviction on a person, though, and that's something completely different.

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[AustinN4]

No matter what good might come from particular incidents of civil asset forfeiture (and yes, there are some good outcomes), their rampant abuse leads me to the conclusion that they should be entirely prohibited. Get a criminal conviction on a person, though, and that's something completely different.

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[toddnjoyce]

SCOTUS says constitutional protection against excessive fines applies to state actions

https://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/timbs-v-indiana/

In a grander sense, this could be a good sign for 2A.

 

[oldag]

SCOTUS says constitutional protection against excessive fines applies to state actions

https://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/timbs-v-indiana/

In a grander sense, this could be a good sign for 2A.

Unanimous ruling, even. {But you can bet any 2A case won't be.}

And this ruling puts asset-forfeiture programs in serious jeopardy. Hopefully, they will be ruled unconstitutional. Seizing assets with no conviction is wrong. Sorry if that hurts law enforcement going after drug dealers, but that is just too bad.

 

[perfor8]

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[perfor8]

No matter what good might come from particular incidents of civil asset forfeiture (and yes, there are some good outcomes), their rampant abuse leads me to the conclusion that they should be entirely prohibited. Get a criminal conviction on a person, though, and that's something completely different.

I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small of degree of it - Thomas Jefferson.

 

[Pops1955]

AMEN!!!

 

[gshayd]

They should have to go to a judge and get a warrant to prove drug ties to the money before they can seize a cent of it. Then they must also get a warrant to arrest them for drug possession and dealing. No arrest warrant no conviction no confiscation. My parents gave me privileges to do certain things. When I abused them they were taken away.

 

[karlac]

Been railing against civil asset forfeiture, without conviction, for years.
Still boggles my mind that US citizens have allowed this theft to be practiced upon them this long.

Too damn many useful idiots ...

 

[bigwheel]

Says that it is not "civil asset forfeiture" it is "civil asset theft," government should not be stealing property without a conviction. Law enforcement should not be incentivized to steal property. The current system harms those who don't trust the financial system (those who don't keep money in banks) and now some banks don't want to do business with firearm manufactures those people could be target for civil asset forfeiture if they end up cash only businesses.

This is all being said the Republican Party of Texas Convention which is happening this week in San Antonio. There are those who are supporting a plank for the Republican Party to oppose "civil asset forfeiture/theft."

Dittos. It’s like all other good intentioned liberal social engineering projects. It don’t work as envisioned. Similar to LBJs war on poverty